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To: Nachum
More importantly, recognizing implicit and exclusive right of the organized Jewish community to determine the parameters of its own identity

And which organized Jewish community would that be??? There are a variety of Jewish denominations the more conservative of which consider the others to be apostate. All seem to believe though its a horror of horrors for a person to be proud of their Jewish heritage, and yet believe that Jesus son of David is the Jewish Messiah. People should be allowed to identify themselves as they wish, and not be bullied into something by intolerance.

As to the snide remarks made about the (still Jewish) Rosen and his success at raising funds...since when is that morally suspect? B'nai b'rith would no doubt have tens of millions more to make them suspect if that is somehow shady.

When all Jews agree on a particular way of belief....and they show equal labeling of "apostate" for the many, many agnostic and atheistic Jews, then the complaint that "Jews who believe Jesus is Messiah just CANNOT be Jewish!" will have some traction.

Until then its just so much anti-Christian bigotry.

70 posted on 08/27/2003 3:52:44 PM PDT by AnalogReigns
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To: AnalogReigns
And which organized Jewish community would that be???

That would be: All the major branches of Jewry; Reform, Conservative, and Orthodox, all the Jewish Federations and parent groups world wide, the government of the Jewish state, Israel.

People should be allowed to identify themselves as they wish, and not be bullied into something by intolerance.

Exactly, which is why Jews for Jesus is a lie. It is no more than an apostate Jew Baptist Minister, who was financed by the Baptist Church, overseen by an evengelical financial organization. Jews for Jesus say nothing about their connection to the Baptists, they conceal it. Their own documentation between correspondance with Baptist Church elders says that they intend to dispense with any reference to Judaism at all to future children of the Jews for Jesus converts. All so they can be fully accepted into the Baptist fold.

They are liars, telling a big, fat, whopping, stinking, lie.

You find truth in that? Your charge of "anti-christian" bigotry rings hollow. It is just another slimy attempt of certain cult like groups to "reach out" to Jews.

74 posted on 08/27/2003 4:38:20 PM PDT by Nachum
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