FOX NEWS: ALABAMA TEN COMMANDMENTS JUDGE SUSPENDED...

Drudge Report ^ | 08/22/03 | Matt Drudge

[Pokey78]

Orlando Salinas broke in a few minutes ago and announced this on Fox News.

[gsrinok]

Thanks for the info. I hope Logan is doing well.

[gsrinok]

Got it. Thanks for letting me know.

[Brad’s Gramma]

ONE YEAR? That's IT?

You mean NO OTHER JUDGE or no one like that has displayed them??????????

[wardaddy]

I have an acquaintance in Federal prison (non-violent) and they did the same thing ...banned Christmas trees...they do not even mention Easter but they have two state sponsored Ramadan months ...one for the Islamists and one for Nation of Islam...they fall on different times...why?...hell if i know.

This is the kind of tolerance that want to foist on us. We tolerate them and they make us invisble enough so that there is nothing for them to have to tolerate.

[rwfromkansas]

Well said.

But, I disagree that there is a total separation.

Jefferson went to church in Congress 2 days after mentioning the wall between church and state. He also signed at least one bill as President giving federal funds to missionaries, including some intended for the raising of a church.

Now, Madison appears to be much stronger in his separationist views. I don't find such promotion of religion like Jefferson in Madison's actions. However, even he introduced and pushed for (along with Jefferson) a bill to punish Sabbath breakers while a Virginia legislator. In the official debate on the First Amendment, he describes a very narow intent for the First Amendment and what "establishment" means, not the broad way it is currently viewed. However, I do note that his personal view of establishment is much broader in the Detached Memoranda. Madison calls chaplains an establishment of religion there.

However, the official debates in the Congressional records are what take precedence and Madison said the amendment had a limited purpose.

Ultimately, while I think Moore goes too far in saying basically that non-Christians are lesser citizens, he is correct that the current separation between church and state is too far. After all, this view didn't get started in the courts until the early 1900's (bigtime with FDR).

[wardaddy]

I wasn't thinking of you but you can bear the cross if you like..lol

[wardaddy]

Republican President (3 out of the last 4, 5 out of the last 7), Republican House, Republican Senate, Republican Majority Supreme Court (although they don't always rule 'correctly'). Ann Coulter, Fox News, KABC...conservatives are nowhere near in danger of being repressed.

likewise doubtful that any of us have chosen a lampost with your name on it Mr Taliban baitor.

[floriduh voter]

Leverage anyone?

Conservatives, Christians Battle Alabama Governor on Tax Hike Republican Alabama Gov. Bob Riley stirred up controversy last month when he told voters that it is their "Christian duty" to support his $1.2 billion tax increase. Riley's tax package, aimed at erasing budget deficits and reforming an antiquated tax structure, will be decided in a September 9 referendum. (gopusa.com)

A Christian's duty first duty isn't to the tax man unless you live in Alabama. Say no to new taxes because this is a clear case of "taxation without representation."

[tutstar]

Oh really? Didn't you accuse someone of cyber-stalking you yesterday? And that wasn't rude? What an ego to say someone is following you around!

I had no doubt you'd see my post anyway, you've hardly left these threads. You totally ignored one of my posts to you yesterday, but I guess that's not rude. How about pinging Judge Moore so he can respond to all your dribble?

You can think you're not rude all you want to. I think the responses made to you by other Freepers make a pretty clear case. If you are a Christian, you sure don't stand up for the Word and Jesus did. If we are Christians we should be putting God first and standing up for the Lord and not accusing Judge Moore of being an opportunist.

[tutstar]

You are right about that and it wouldn't surprise me a bit.

[rwfromkansas]

"He did coin the phrase. And 2 days later, he attended church in the House of Representatives. Oh, and he also supported a bill and signed it as President giving federal money to Christian missionaries of the Indians. Also, while in Virginia, he along with Madison introduced and supported a bill to punish "Sabbath breakers." It passed and remained even after a purging of bills deemed against the Bill of Rights."

lol.....commercials don't give you much time to Freep. Have fun watching the race.

[floriduh voter]

"Conservatives, Christians Battle Alabama Governor on Tax Hike Republican Alabama Gov. Bob Riley stirred up controversy last month when he told voters that it is their "Christian duty" to support his $1.2 billion tax increase. Riley's tax package, aimed at erasing budget deficits and reforming an antiquated tax structure, will be decided in a September 9 referendum." (gopusa.com)

TAXATION WITHOUT REPRESENTATION. SAY NO TO NEW TAXES IN ALABAMA. Christians won't be played. This gives them some leverage in the Ten Commandments fight and it really frosts me: RINO GOV. RILEY espousing a Christian duty to pay taxes. Shame on him.

[sinkspur]

You mean NO OTHER JUDGE or no one like that has displayed them??????????

Nope. Makes you wonder how the Supreme Court of Alabama functioned this long without them.

[floriduh voter]

I say the Ten Commandments plastered everywhere in Alabama! And you must see this Christian related story. It could ignite a firestorm. I may send it to Sean Hannity.

Conservatives, Christians Battle Alabama Governor on Tax Hike Republican Alabama Gov. Bob Riley stirred up controversy last month when he told voters that it is their "Christian duty" to support his $1.2 billion tax increase. Riley's tax package, aimed at erasing budget deficits and reforming an antiquated tax structure, will be decided in a September 9 referendum. gopusa.com

When they need money, who do they go crying to? Alabama Christians!

[ChemistCat]

How can we oppose Jesse Jackson and support Justice Moore?

A house divided against itself cannot stand. What Moore has been doing is setting up unnecessary conflict between one faction of Americans and another. I believe in Christ--He stands supreme. I also believe that the Ten Commandments are part of the foundation of our civilization and that those who are fighting this carving are stupid.

But I can believe that racism exists and that it's wrong and STILL believe that Jesse's way increases it, rather than lessening it. Moore is deliberately provoking anti-Christian sentiment, and unnecessarily. He wants to be a martyr--to no real point except to heighten the conflict. Why? What good does it do for the Kingdom of God?

This is not the way God works.

[longtermmemmory]

1. does anyone have the actual complaint and specifically who filed it?

2. the judge could be re-appointed to be his replacement

[strela]

The fact is the Constitution gives us freedom OF religion, not freedom FROM it!

Then you won't mind one little bitty bit if I provide your name and address to the following "religions" so they can witness to you? I'll confine my list just to the As for brevity's sake:

Aggressive Christianity Mission Training Corps
Ahmadiyya
Air Cult
Al Ma'unah
Alawites
Aleph
Alpha and Omega Ministries
Alpha Course
Alternative Religious Movement (ARM)
America's Promise Ministries
American Academy of Religions
American Family Foundation (AFF)
Americans Preserving Religious Liberty (APRL)
Amish
Amsterdam Affirmations
Ananda Cooperative Village
Anatnan
Anglican Church
Animism
Ankerberg Theological Research Institute
Answers in Action
Apocalypse
Apologetics Information Ministry (AIM)
Apostles of Infinite Love
Apostolic-Prophetic Teams
Apparitions of the Virgin Mary
APRL
Areopagus II America
Arianism
Arminianism
Armstrongism
AR-Talk
Aryan Brotherhood
Aryan National Alliance
Aryan Nations
Asatru
Ascended Masters
Ascetism
ASDFI
Ashram
Assemblies of Christians
Association de défense contre les agressions mentales
Association de défense de l'individu et de la famille
Association for Theological Studies
Association of Families for Unification and World Peace
Association of Vineyard Churches
Astanga
Astrology
Atman
Attleboro Cult
Augustine Fellowship Study Center
Augustine Institute for Ethics
Aum Shinrikyo
Aum Supreme Truth
Aura
AusAmerica Ministries

Each and every one of them can claim just as much a right to a place at the table of religion as Christianity.

When would be a good time for them to see you at home?

[sinkspur]

If you are a Christian, you sure don't stand up for the Word and Jesus did. If we are Christians we should be putting God first and standing up for the Lord and not accusing Judge Moore of being an opportunist.

I put God first. I don't need the government to make God a priority in my life.

What's more, I respect the beliefs of other people. Roy Moore doesn't.

[walrus954]

I know I'll be flamed for saying this, but I think it is right. Judges are sworn to uphold the law, and the legal system ruled that the tablets should be removed. No matter if you agree or disagree with this decision, the courts have ruled, and the matter is closed. If one wishes for the law to be changed, Congress must act.

Andrew

[tet68]

"Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof..."



The way I see it is that Judge moore is engaged in the free exercise of his religion.

Neither Congress, nor the state legislature has mandated
that the ten commandments be placed in court houses across the county or Alabama. (make no law respecting an establisment of religion) But they sure have prohibited the
free exercise thereof.

Any way the whole idea that it would be ok if it was in some "private" area of the courthouse is ludicris, how about the basement? If it's ok in the basement then.......