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Police arrest 19 in terror probe (CANADA!?!)
The Toronto Star ^ | August 22, 2003 | M. Sheppard and B. Powell (Staff Reporters)

Posted on 08/22/2003 10:56:27 AM PDT by IvanT

Citizenship officer triggered alarm One man enrolled in flight school

MICHELLE SHEPHARD AND BETSY POWELL STAFF REPORTERS

A man enrolled in a flight school — where training involves flying over the Pickering nuclear power plant — is one of 19 people being held in a Toronto-area jail while federal officers investigate possible links to terrorist groups.

Police from several forces acting in partnership with Citizenship and Immigration Canada conducted pre-dawn raids throughout the Toronto area last week, arresting some of the men on alleged immigration violations while others are now being held without any charges being laid but as a possible "threat to national security." RCMP, Toronto, Halton, York and OPP officers carried out the arrests.

Under the Immigration and Refugee Protection Act, the federal government can detain without charges any landed immigrant or foreign national who is considered to be a threat to national security.

"I can confirm that we were part of the arrests last Thursday. We arrested 19 people, but all in an assist to Immigration," RCMP spokesperson Michelle Paradis said last night. An immigration official confirmed the arrests but had no further comment.

Most of those arrested were students or refugee claimants and all were born in Pakistan.

Officers with the multi-jurisdictional Public Security and Anti-Terrorism unit (PSAT) claimed it was a pattern of behaviour of a larger "group" that authorities held to be suspicious, according to a four-page summary outlining "the reasons for detention" and dated Aug. 19. It was submitted at the detention review hearings this week and obtained by The Star.

"PSAT officers determined that based on the structure of this group, their associations and connected events, there is a reasonable suspicion that these persons pose a threat to national security," the document states.

A defence lawyer for two of the detained men said what is provided in court as "reasonable suspicion" is innuendo.

"All 19 of them, not just my two clients, are being held on such flimsy evidence that if it was presented in a court of law it would be found as a joke," lawyer Mohammed Syed said last night. "Some are being held without any charges under the Immigration Act or any other act for that matter."

The arrests followed a seven-month investigation called "Project Thread."

According to the document, one man raised suspicion because he is currently taking commercial pilot lessons to qualify as a multi-engine commercial pilot. His flight path for training purposes flies over the Pickering nuclear power plant.

"He often brings with him an unknown male as a passenger. His instructors have described him as an unmotivated student," the document states. "The average timeframe for qualification is approximately one year. The target has been training in Canada for almost three years."

Two more "associates of the group" were deemed suspicious when Durham Region police found them outside the gates of the Pickering station on an April, 2002 morning.

"They requested that they be allowed to enter the perimeter in order to go for a walk on the beach," the document states.

A "confirmed associate of the group" provided an offer of employment from the Global Relief Foundation Inc. — a group the United Nations has identified as a fundraising group for terrorist groups, including Al Qaeda — the document states. One of the men under investigation resides with that individual, the document says.

The document also cites Sunni extremism, stating that the men are from, "or have connections to the Punjab province in Pakistan that is noted for Sunni extremism."

An aunt of two of the detained men called the allegations ludicrous and balked at the fact that her nephews were being held on suspicion alone.

"Pakistan only has four provinces. I don't see how being from one of them makes you a terrorist," she said in an interview last night.

"Whatever happened to innocent until proven guilty? They're holding them because they're from one country and they're Muslim so therefore they have to be terrorists."

"I'm Canadian-born Pakistani and I never thought something like this would happen in Canada."

The summary says the "cataloguing and review of the three van loads of evidence by the RCMP and Canadian Immigration officers is ongoing."

The document also evokes Sept. 11 saying there were several "tips" called into the the RCMP after the terrorist attacks on the World Trade Center that cited "strange behaviour" at one of the addresses involved.

The document also states:

"It is known that the subjects have associates that have access to nuclear gauges." They are commonly used in construction but contain a small amount of cesium-137, a possible ingredient for a dirty bomb.

At least two apartments where subjects lived had "unexplained fires." In one case, the apartment's fire alarm was disconnected prior to the fire.

One residence is reported to have airplane schematics and picture of guns on the wall.

The investigation started in February when a citizenship and immigration visa officer became suspicious about a student who was applying for a permanent resident status.

The officer contacted the anti-terrorism unit when she was unable to verify the applicant was a student at the Ottawa Business College, as he purported to be on his application.

He also had a bank balance with more than $40,000 but no "identifiable source of income."

Police began investigating the Ottawa school and 31 people —the larger group identified by officials — who were allegedly discovered to have fraudulently received permits to enter or remain in Canada, according to the document.

During a search of the school, almost 400 student files were seized.

"The investigation proved that the Ottawa Business College was not a legitimate school. Foreign students and others could purchase acceptance letters, transcripts and diplomas for a fee without ever attending classes," the document states.

Most of the group members, all male, are between 18 and 33 and many have given false documents to citizenship officials, the document says.

The majority claim to be students, the document continues, but few are actively pursuing academic goals.

They have "engaged in acts to mislead Citizenship and Immigration" by presenting false documents involving the Ottawa Business College in an effort to extend their student visas.

All but one in the group have connections to the Punjab province in Pakistan "that is noted for Sunni extremism. Some appear to have attended the same university programs during the same period of time."

Although the majority of the group entered Canada as students they are not studying or "engaging in them in what can only be called a dilatory manner."

Many have travelled to other countries while maintaining temporary resident status.

The detained "appear to reside in clusters of 4 or 5" and "change residents in clusters.

The residences kept a "minimal standard of living." The documents notes that most homes or apartments had on a mattress and computer. One "cluster left an apartment during the night and discarded all of their belongings: mattresses, clothing and computer shells, apparently taking only the computer hard drive upon vacating the apartment."


TOPICS: Breaking News; Canada; Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: canada; captured; jihadnextdoor; projectthread; terrorist; wot
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To: ChadGore
I'll put the beer on ice and meet your boys at the border for a pre-invasion piss up.
41 posted on 08/22/2003 12:31:43 PM PDT by IvanT
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To: IvanT
In the end, it is the One residence is reported to have airplane schematics and picture of guns on the wall. charges that will drag these guys down in court.

It is provable, and this is Canada, after all! No guns, representations of guns or pictures of guns allowed!

42 posted on 08/22/2003 12:38:10 PM PDT by steve in DC
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To: steve in DC
No guns, representations of guns or pictures of guns allowed

Really? I guess I better get my gun collector friend to turn his 300+ firearms in tonight then....

43 posted on 08/22/2003 12:44:41 PM PDT by IvanT
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To: IvanT
the men are from, "or have connections to the Punjab province in Pakistan that is noted for Sunni extremism."

Good, we're profiling and we caught them.

44 posted on 08/22/2003 12:46:57 PM PDT by 1Old Pro
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To: 1Old Pro
Canada profiling? Never! Ha ha. I knew this stuff was going on in the background, they just don't want it advertised.
45 posted on 08/22/2003 12:54:46 PM PDT by IvanT
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To: IvanT
Check out the byline on this article. Same reporter. Big series on profiling.
46 posted on 08/22/2003 1:01:33 PM PDT by l33+h4x0r
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To: IvanT
arresting some of the men on alleged immigration violations

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That has a nice ring to it. I wonder why they haven't thought of doing that in California.

47 posted on 08/22/2003 2:24:09 PM PDT by doug from upland (Why did DemocRATS allow a perjuring rapist to remain in the Oval Office?)
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To: IvanT
Here is an article written by a CBC newsman who flew over Pickering nucular power plant on Sept 17, 2001.

CBC Flight Diary

It makes you wonder if the jihadists didn't read the same article and conclude there was an opportunity.

48 posted on 08/22/2003 2:39:27 PM PDT by mac_truck
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To: IvanT
19 hijackers... again. There were 19 on Sept. 11th.

Somewhere from my college days I remember an Islamic student telling me that the sacred number in Islam is... 19. Do I remember this accurately? Can anyone confirm or correct this info?

49 posted on 08/22/2003 3:06:28 PM PDT by Rytwyng
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To: BluH2o
Turban = Sikhs
Sikhs hate muslims....
50 posted on 08/22/2003 3:51:56 PM PDT by MD_Willington_1976
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To: IvanT
Good news that the Mounties have pulled their head out of its hibernation lair... after all, it's summer in Canada this week....

But... what in the name of all the Saints does the reporter mean by: flight school — where training involves flying over the Pickering nuclear power plant .

All that does is scare people needlessly. Look, if you filled a single- or twin-engine training plane with as much TNT as it could struggle aloft with (remember that singer Aliyah and how she bought it?) and dashed it against any part of a nuclear plant you would have three results:

  1. a very dead pilot.
  2. a destroyed plane.
  3. a mess to clean up.
That's it. Two or four thousand pounds of airplane, and payload (whatever payload it was) cannot breach a nuclear containment vessel. Period, full stop. Maybe if you could accellerate those two tons to Mach 6... it's like worrying that if you hit a mosquito with your SUV, the impact will break your windshield.

I don't expect reporters to understand aviation (and they never fail to prove my expectations sound) but is it too much to ask for them to have a junior-high level understanding of physics?

I guess so. Nuclear terror, my aching head.

d.o.l.

Criminal Number 18F

51 posted on 08/22/2003 5:07:23 PM PDT by Criminal Number 18F
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To: Scott from the Left Coast
The Islamofascists have... become lawyers

Dude, you are missing the opportunity here. We can just declare the bar a terrorist organisation, and bada boom bada bing, Mohammed Syed and his oily pals are in Gitmo swattting flies between prayer time.

d.o.l.

Criminal Number 18F

52 posted on 08/22/2003 5:10:24 PM PDT by Criminal Number 18F
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To: IvanT
Shoot'em!
53 posted on 08/22/2003 6:22:26 PM PDT by blam
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To: N8VTXNinWV
Check this out, Louie.
54 posted on 08/22/2003 6:29:09 PM PDT by shezza
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To: mac_truck
It makes you wonder if the jihadists didn't read the same article and conclude there was an opportunity

Any transport aircraft hijacked North of the border ain't going to be wasted on Canadian targets.

Straight down the Hudson from Montreal, on the deck across Michigan and the Lake from Windsor, U-turn over the Pacific on a Vancouver-Honolulu run.

I've been worried about this since 9/11. I hope the RCMP can take care of business.

55 posted on 08/22/2003 6:36:46 PM PDT by Jim Noble
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To: IvanT
Guess the 19 thought Canada was so PC that the police would not even keep an eye out for persons of Arabic/Middle Eastern descent acting suspiciously.
56 posted on 08/22/2003 6:46:13 PM PDT by madison10
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To: IvanT
This makes me smile. The cries of innocence and nonsense and racism make me ill. Some need to wake up.
57 posted on 08/22/2003 6:55:51 PM PDT by ladyinred (The left have blood on their hands.)
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To: IvanT
"I'm Canadian-born Pakistani and I never thought something like this would happen in Canada."

Me either. It's about time.

58 posted on 08/22/2003 7:11:21 PM PDT by Roscoe Karns
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To: IvanT
Canadian bacon
59 posted on 08/23/2003 8:55:22 AM PDT by bulldogs
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