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To: Migraine
I can see the establishment clause being invoked here due to the 1st and 2nd commandments (1]no god but "the LORD thy God", Jehovah Elohim -- a specific God, the God of the Bible, the God I love, cherish, worship and serve; and 2] no graven image, which goes against the religion of Catholics and virtually every East Asian or tribal belief system in the world). Too bad for me, but that's where we've come as a nation.

Exodus 20:3(KJV) "Thou shalt have no other gods before me." 4 "Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image, or any likeness of any thing that that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth:"

This Nation was founded on the belief of this ONE GOD. It was not founded on the belief of the koran, buddism, hinduism or the such.

I find it strange that in schools, colleges and universitys that if you speak the word "GOD" it is outrageous. But the koran can be freely taught.

The majority of this nation is Christian. Yet we cannot show our faith publicly.

24 posted on 08/21/2003 11:29:12 AM PDT by maxplunder (Hoping upon Hope the USA will become FREE Again)
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To: maxplunder
Yet we cannot show our faith publicly.

Sure we can!!!

Who on Earth said that you couldn't???


35 posted on 08/21/2003 12:37:59 PM PDT by Elsie (Don't believe every prophecy you hear: especially *** ones........)
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To: maxplunder
The nations we mock (China, Middle East...) defend their religions better than we do. Our freedom enjoyed is not a freedom of ignorance, we are and have been a Judeo- Christian based country. Our tolerance of other religions should not be mistaken as an opportunity for a minority to remove what has protected this great nation that many have bled and died to protect.
38 posted on 08/21/2003 12:44:41 PM PDT by Tarl ("Men killing men, feeling no pain...the world is a gutter - ENUFF Z'NUFF")
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To: maxplunder
The majority of this nation is Christian. Yet we cannot show our faith publicly.

I totally empathize with you and rue the day when what was originally written and intended became a bludgeon against us. Meanwhile, the nation has become what it wasn't -- particularly with an invasion from Asia which has brought with it strange mindsets, beliefs, philosophies and (yes) religions which believe justice comes around only after several lifetimes. History and sociology have overtaken our religious underpinnings so that now, what was intended to prevent any particular Christian DENOMINATION from holding a preeminent place, has become the fulcrum used to pry Christianity ITSELF from its foundational position, even to the point of denying that it ever was so.

I, like you, abhor this fact of life and history -- but it is undeniable. Meanwhile, we need to be wise as serpents, harmless as doves, and take measures to write Christianity into public life subtly, if need be.

48 posted on 08/21/2003 1:07:16 PM PDT by Migraine (my grain is pretty straight today)
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