Busload Arrested and Led Away from Ten Commandments

WTVM ^ | 08-20-03

[Selmo]

Supporters of Chief Justice Roy Moore have been handcuffed and led away from the Ten Commandments monument in Montgomery. They had refused to leave the monument after Moore lost a last-ditch appeal to the U.S. Supreme Court this afternoon. The federal judge who ordered the monument's removal is now expected to consider a contempt of court finding on Friday. That could set the stage for the monument to be removed ... or fines imposed on the state.

Scores of Moore supporters sang and prayed outside the building as about 20 inside were removed from the rotunda. It wasn't immediately known if they would be charged by Montgomery police.

Associate Justice Douglas Johnston issued a statement saying he had proposed moving the monument to a private area of the judicial building after six o'clock this evening. He said that would avert any fines while Moore pursues appeals that could take months. But he said fewer than five of the justices concurred, and his proposal was not approved.

The associate justices have indicated they may take action later.

Stay tuned to News Leader 9 for complete Skyteam 9 live coverage.

[Revel]

"Rule of law, Palladin. Render to Caesar."
There are exceptions to that. This makes you clearly Anti American to the core. After all our country was founded by those who took it upon themselves to not render to Caesar. So if you could go back in time to convince everyone of your argument than there would be no United States of America. God did not call us to ignore the preservation of his law. God lead his people in war many times. Get off the stick and use a little common sense. The left has no vaules. If you surrender to them than you are in effect turning the country over to them. It is called the creation of a Godless country. If that is what you want than you should leave the church and go join them.

[an amused spectator]

God granted people rights, and people granted government powers.

To the heart of the matter, from a Constitutional point of view.

[Chummy]

I did, Luis, but I think you may have overlooked my responses to you. The Tenth Amendment is commonly referred to as "States' Rights"; another Freeper and I both shared its language. And, in response to another of your twists on powers v. rights, I asked of you what the first ten amendments of the US Constitution are commonly referred to as?

[cornelis]

the government is of the people

A constitutional republic. Somewhere between sinkspur's caeserial imperium and Gonzales' sterile tank.

[Mulder]

What law did the protestors violate?

I guess they didn't have the proper "permit" to peaceably assemble in the new Amerikan police state.

The statist thugs who illegally ordered the removal of the 10 commandments should be the ones arrested instead.

[Chummy]

I avoid gambling. Are you still in school?

Frankly, it matters little if you've "taken classes" if you're getting things wrong having taken them.

[Luis Gonzalez]

The Tenth is not about "State's Rights", it's about powers.

Only people have rights.

[concerned about politics]

In other words, where no one would see it. There comes a point where you have to take a stand. Moore is right and the federal courts are out of control. They need to be reined in.

The media isn't following this story as much as I'd like. I believe most people would side with Moore. Everyone has been effected by political correctness oppression in one way or another. I think there are still many good people in this country, but they remain silent because they're unaware of what's happening to Judge Moore, or they feel helpless to do anything about it.
I do hope, though, this will wake people up to what's been happening in this country over the last decade. First gays actually want to marry , and now this.

[Luis Gonzalez]

Show me anywhere in the Founding documents, where States, or for that matter, any level of government, are recognized as having rights.

[Luis Gonzalez]

They did not leave the building after it closed.

[sweetliberty]

I feel like a stake is being driven through the heart of America. It is becoming unbearable.

[Mulder]

Please. Roy Moore is an opportunist. He set this up two years ago, and intends to use it as a stepping stone to the governor's mansion.

I saw the man speak on Hannity and Colmes tonight.

I believe him to be very articulate and intelligent. He is also a Patriot and one of the few elected officials who still supports the Constitution and Declaration of Independence.

Come to think of, if and when the day ever comes where the "domestic enemies of the Constitution" face a jury of their peers on numerous counts of treason, sedition, perjury, and conspiracy to deprive the American people of their Rights, I wouldn't mind having Judge Moore as one of the presiding judges.

[Chummy]

Luis, you're incorrectly arguing semantics.

The people are the states. The states are a legal entity, a collection of citizens resident within a described boundary, and bound further by certain laws and regulations. The Tenth Amendment is commonly referred to as the States' Rights Amendment. The first ten amendments to the US Constitution are commonly referred to as the Bill of Rights.

The Right that is described in the Tenth is the reservation of power to the states, or to the people, where these powers not delegated to the US by the Constitution.

[Mulder]

They did not leave the building after it closed.

Whose building, and who paid for that building?

[God is good]

I thought taxpayers had a say in their government. Oh wait, I'm thinking of America, that place doesn't exist except in History books. So what are we paying these officials for anyway? It's certainly not to serve and protect.

[Edit35]

"I always applaud upholding the rule of law."

What law? Do you mean the Dredd Scott law, the one that ruled it legal to own and sell slaves?

Or the separate but equal law, the one which segregated all African Americans to their own schools and such??

Please. Again. Which religion is being established by having the 10 Commandments hanging on the wall??

Judiasm. Mormonism?? Catholocism??

Do you also want the Bible outlawed as a means to swear someone in to the witness stand??

[sinkspur]

This makes you clearly Anti American to the core.

Questioning someone else's patriotism is the last refuge of an idiot.

[Revel]

"Yes. And the way to oppose them is to CHANGE THEM, not defy a court order as Moore is doing."

Constitutional law already is with the judge and those that support him. The judges that are declaring that the monument must be removed are lawless. They write laws from the bench. Even congress has written no such law to remove these commandments. Judges do not have the right to do it. What you actually support is lawlessness and you think it is the law. Get a clue.

[concerned about politics]

I feel like a stake is being driven through the heart of America. It is becoming unbearable.

Let not your heart be troubled. "These things must come to pass."
"Blessed are those who read aloud or hear the words of this prophacy, AND OBSERVE THE THINGS WRITTEN IN IT, for the appointed time is near.
Comfort one another with these words."

[sinkspur]

OK, let's assume the courts enforced, on penalty of death, a new law requiring religious, Sabbath observance of the seventh day (Saturday) and an abandoning of any and all Sunday religious observance. What would be your response?

For the second time, I don't do hypotheticals.