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To: PhilipFreneau
The Atkins diet is a very effective way to lose weight quickly. But it has a huge problem: it's NOT balanced.

And most important: it's not a great way to live the rest of your life.
7 posted on 08/18/2003 6:36:35 PM PDT by Mihalis
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To: Mihalis
"And most important: it's not a great way to live the rest of your life. "

Why? Please be specific.
8 posted on 08/18/2003 6:39:39 PM PDT by Poser
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To: Mihalis
To the contrary, it is a GREAT way to live the rest of your life.

Healthy and thin beats unhealthy and fat every time.
10 posted on 08/18/2003 6:45:34 PM PDT by sd-joe
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To: Mihalis
The Atkins diet is a very effective way to lose weight quickly. But it has a huge problem: it's NOT balanced. And most important: it's not a great way to live the rest of your life.

Have you even looked at the diet and the menues allowed? I personally have never eaten as well both for nutrition and for taste as I have while following a low carb plan. What is wrong with a steak broiled in butter, portabella mushrooms and onions, mixed green salad with your favorite real dressing, steamed asparagus and sugar free cheesecake with fresh strawberries?

Carbs are allowed just not too many of them. They also need to come from real foods like veggies, low glycemic fruit, whole grains with high fiber, the occasional starchy veggie.

The first two weeks only are supposed to be really restrictive in order to jump start the fat burning process. You gradually add in carbs *until* you stop losing weight and reduce them back until you start losing again.

It pays to get a book and read it to fully understand. There are several low carb plans and all have good information in them, some people even pick and choose what works for them from the various plans to make this way of life work for them. It's a your mileage may vary thing.

Here's the basic plan in a nutshell... definitely *not* everything allowed, but to help those understand that it is more balanced than they realize.

Real meats/eggs/cheeses/fish/poultry

Real fats/butter *not margarine*/olive oil/mayonaise/sugar free/full fat salad dressings/heavy cream/sour cream/bacon

nonstarchy veggies/salad greens/green beans/spinach/etc... minimum 3 cups/ day

nut & seeds/ Macadamias/walnuts/almonds/pecans/hulled sunflower seeds/roasted shelled peanuts/cashews

berries & fruits/ blueberries/raspberries/ strawberries/ blackberries

Cut out refined junk like white flour, cookies, white bread, high fructose corn syrup, most white foods, partially hydrogenated fats...

That is just for starters on induction and on going weight loss. It really isn't that bad especially since you usually feel pretty good on it. It isn't a diet, it is a lifelong commitment if you want the weight to stay off. You also have to work in exercise at some point in this plan too for maximum benefits.

14 posted on 08/18/2003 7:18:42 PM PDT by CajunConservative
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To: Mihalis
The Atkins diet is a very effective way to lose weight quickly. But it has a huge problem: it's NOT balanced. And most important: it's not a great way to live the rest of your life.

Apparently you are as knowledgeable as Susan Jebb is about The Atkins Diet. Both of you know squat about the diet but feel the need to condemn it, otherwise you wouldn't make such sweeping statements.

FYI, it is only in the induction phase of the diet that one avoids carbohydrates. After induction, you learn to pick and choose foods to eat according to their carb gram count. No one can avoid eating carbs, but more importantly, Atkins doesn't advocate avoidance. If you bothered to educate yourself about the diet, you would learn a great deal.
15 posted on 08/18/2003 7:19:21 PM PDT by demkicker ((I wanna kick some commie butt))
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To: Mihalis
But it has a huge problem: it's NOT balanced.

"Huge problem", eh?

Please describe how the natural diet of the hunter-gatherer homo sapiens (circa 100,000 BC) was "balanced" before the introduction of organized agriculture (circa 9,000 BC).

And what are those human canines and incisors for? Chewing tomatos and grass? What's that big brain for? Chasing down a wild thistle?

16 posted on 08/18/2003 7:26:10 PM PDT by angkor
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To: Mihalis
"The Atkins diet is a very effective way to lose weight quickly. But it has a huge problem: it's NOT balanced."

Dr. Atkins admits freely in his book that the diet is not balanced. "If a little of something is not good for you, then why should a lot of it be better?"

The Atkins diet is not balanced because it is CORRECTIVE. Horseshoers use unbalanced shoes on horses to correct poor stride. Same way with diet: you correct an imbalance with another imbalance.

If you are eating a "balanced" diet and you are healthy, you don't need a corrective diet. Do what you are doing. But for people who have been eating an UNBALANCED diet for the last several years, and who are paying the price for that bad diet in obesity, heart disease, high blood pressure, diabetes, and other metabolic disorders, then an unbalanced diet may be the only corrective step that can be taken short of medical intervention. And, what's "unbalanced" about meat, vegetables, and fruit, anyway? The only thing that is not found in large quantities in the Atkins or any other low-carbohydrate diet are foods high in simple carbohydrates like baked goods, pastries, candies, and processed, refined pseudo-foods.

Never be afraid of meats and their attached fats. The human body needs saturated fats for nerve and brain development, proper hormone formation and secretion, and skin, hair, and eye health. Bones cannot take up calcium and other minerals unless saturated fatty acids are present. (Isn't it interesting that the increase in osteoporosis is almost exactly parallel to the removal of natural saturated fats from the diet?)

Scientific evidence abounds on the good effects of a low-carbohydrate diet. Just because the government or the press says high-carb is best, doesn't mean it is. Nine times out of ten, you will find that the "scientists" who tout these perverted diets are (or have been) in the pay of the food giants. The food-grain and -oil producers and the food megagiants find pet researchers who twiddle with figures and manipulate research to make the numbers say what they want, but the medical FACTS are out there if anyone cares to research the subject. Read Uffe Ravnskov's book, THE CHOLESTEROL MYTHS by Uffe Ravnskov. He researched the RESEARCH, and found some very interesting hanky-panky.

20 posted on 08/18/2003 8:21:53 PM PDT by redhead
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To: Mihalis
But it has a huge problem: it's NOT balanced.

Balanced on what scale? If you compare it to the food pyramid, you're right, it's not balanced. Atkins is based on the concept that the food pyramid is completely off-kilter, so the generally recognized "balance" does not apply.

36 posted on 08/19/2003 7:49:57 AM PDT by cashion
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To: Mihalis
And most important: it's not a great way to live the rest of your life.

I am not a strict dieter, but I have found some of the Atkins principles very useful in keep my weight steady. I followed the high carb guidelines for years and steadily gained weight.

Now I still eat plenty of carbs, but I don't labor under the impression that it is good for me to replace most of my intake with carbs.

My weight is decreasing very slowly with a lot of stability, meaning no sudden spikes of five or ten pounds that restrictive diets tended to produce.

Atkins balanced my diet that was badly skewed by food pyramid thinking, and it is a great way to live the rest of your life.

39 posted on 08/19/2003 7:55:11 AM PDT by hopespringseternal
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To: Mihalis
it's not a great way to live the rest of your life.

I can't think of many better ways to live the rest of my life than by eating juicy red meat steaks every day. mmmm mmmm mmmm. I may not live as long as I would otherwise, but it would be a pretty good way to live in my humble opinion.

40 posted on 08/19/2003 7:57:11 AM PDT by monkeyshine
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To: Mihalis
The Atkins diet is a very effective way to lose weight quickly. But it has a huge problem: it's NOT balanced.

You mean that you don't get to eat cheesecake, ice cream, donuts, cake, candy bars, soda pop, french fries and pizza under Atkins? Yeah, I guess that is unbalanced.

If you are eating just meat, fish, vegetables, fruits, nuts and olive oils, you are on an unbalanced diet and are ruining your health. Get some Krispy Kreme donuts and Pop Tarts into your system before it is too late!

60 posted on 08/19/2003 6:13:27 PM PDT by SamAdams76 (Back in boot camp! 230.6 (-69.4))
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To: Mihalis
And most important: it's not a great way to live the rest of your life.

And if you stop the weight comes back REAL fast.
72 posted on 08/19/2003 8:38:20 PM PDT by WKB (3!~ ( You can hear it anywhere but only here can you tell the world what you think about it))
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To: Mihalis
A balanced diet put into an unbalanced body makes something still unbalanced. An unbalanced diet equals out an unbalanced system into a balanced organism. People have a weight problem because their system is out of whack and a so called balanced diet hurts them. Atkins is designed to work on malfunctioning systems.
79 posted on 08/20/2003 7:54:48 PM PDT by u-89
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