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To: DittoJed2; Michael_Michaelangelo; Right Wing Professor
Score one for Reason, Ping!

You might want to read post #1820 before you declare premature victory.

Also note that although MM's post was long on general declarations of evolution's demise, it contained no examples, and no specific evidence. It was just a diatribe that the reader was expected to take on faith.

People can (and have) written similar diatribes against Christianity -- does that prove anything?

Furthermore, for some perspective check out this web page on The Imminent Demise of Evolution. Creationists have been continuously predicting that evolution was about to come crashing down any day now since 1840... That page contais quotes predicting the crash of evolution from 1840, 1850, 1878, 1895, 1903, 1904, 1905, 1912, 1922, 1929, 1935, 1940, 1961, 1963, 1970, 1975, 1976, 1980, 1983, 1984, 1985, 1987, 1988, 1989, 1990, 1991, 1993, 1994, 1995, 1996, 1997, 1998, 1999, 2000, 2001, and 2002. But surely, they're finally right *this* time, eh?

1,948 posted on 08/21/2003 1:29:17 PM PDT by Ichneumon
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To: Ichneumon
Creationists have been continuously predicting that evolution was about to come crashing down any day now since 1840...

You're forgetting it takes millions of years for wildly successful theories to fall. The punk-eek version of "evolutionary crashing" (a.k.a., ec) requires mechanisms that have not yet been completely described or understood in the creationist/ID model of anti-science. ;)

1,950 posted on 08/21/2003 1:39:53 PM PDT by <1/1,000,000th%
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To: Ichneumon
I did read the article, did NOT assume that the scientists that were being referred to were giving up evolution, and still thought it was a very rational and reasonable assessment of what was said.
2,019 posted on 08/21/2003 6:22:35 PM PDT by DittoJed2
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To: Ichneumon
That should have read "I read the post"

Furthermore, for some perspective check out this web page on The Imminent Demise of Evolution. Creationists have been continuously predicting that evolution was about to come crashing down any day now since 1840... That page contais quotes predicting the crash of evolution from 1840, 1850, 1878, 1895, 1903, 1904, 1905, 1912, 1922, 1929, 1935, 1940, 1961, 1963, 1970, 1975, 1976, 1980, 1983, 1984, 1985, 1987, 1988, 1989, 1990, 1991, 1993, 1994, 1995, 1996, 1997, 1998, 1999, 2000, 2001, and 2002. But surely, they're finally right *this* time, eh?
And "Creationists predicting the demise of evolution" proves what? I don't see how it gives perspective on anything other than to throw up a red herring and poison the well a bit about creationism. I think it was Voltaire who predicted the demise of Christianity some time ago too, but how is that relevant to either Enlightenment philosophy or to the validity of Christianity. It's irrelevant.
2,020 posted on 08/21/2003 6:27:46 PM PDT by DittoJed2
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