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To: DittoJed2
Or a distortion of genetic information. You don't have information added that would be necessary for something to jump from one kind of an animal to another (i.e., from Ape to human).
1,673 posted on 08/20/2003 1:20:39 PM PDT by DittoJed2
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To: DittoJed2
Or a distortion of genetic information. You don't have information added that would be necessary for something to jump from one kind of an animal to another (i.e., from Ape to human).

Er, if I may offer a link for the discussion. This article by G. Yagil on the structural complexity of templated systems might be helpful in breaking down what is meant by complexity in biological systems (from both sides.)

1,682 posted on 08/20/2003 1:40:38 PM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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To: DittoJed2
You don't have information added that would be necessary for something to jump from one kind of an animal to another (i.e., from Ape to human).

No genetic differences between man and modern apes has yet been found to be of a type that is out of the ordinary for genetic mutations.

For example, check out this example:

CHRM2 gene for muscarinic acetylcholine receptor m2, partial cds
updated: 9/11/00

seq id  sequence name
-----------------------------
     1  human (M16404 in Database) - local file -     
     2  human (SN; AB041391 determined by Silver Project) - local file -      
     3  chimpanzee (220; AB041392 determined by Silver Project) - local file -          
     4  gorilla (U1; AB041393 determined by Silver Project) - local file -         
     5  orangutan (U1; AB041394 determined by Silver Project) - local file -           
nucleotides 1 - 60
   1 ttgtcctggtggctggatccctcagtttggtgaccattatcgggaacatcctagtcatgg
   2 ............................................................
   3 ............................................................
   4 ............................................................
   5 ............................................................
     ------------------------------------------------------------
nucleotides 61 - 120
   1 tttccattaaagtcaaccgccacctccagaccgtcaacaattactttttattcagcttgg
   2 ............................................................
   3 ............................................................
   4 .................................................g..........
   5 ...............................t.................g..........
     -------------------------------+-----------------+----------
nucleotides 121 - 180
   1 cctgtgctgaccttatcataggtgttttctccatgaacttgtacaccctctacactgtga
   2 ............................................................
   3 ............................................................
   4 ............................................................
   5 ............................................................
     ------------------------------------------------------------
nucleotides 181 - 240
   1 ttggttactggcctttgggacctgtggtgtgtgacctttggctagccctggactatgtgg
   2 ............................................................
   3 ............................................................
   4 ............................................................
   5 .........................t..................................
     -------------------------+----------------------------------
nucleotides 241 - 300
   1 tcagcaatgcctcagttatgaatctgctcatcatcagctttgacaggtacttctgtgtca
   2 ............................................................
   3 ............................................................
   4 ............................................................
   5 .............g..............................................
     -------------+----------------------------------------------
nucleotides 301 - 360
   1 caaaacctctgacctacccagtcaagcggaccacaaaaatggcaggtatgatgattgcag
   2 ............................................................
   3 ............................................................
   4 ............................................................
   5 ............................................................
     ------------------------------------------------------------
nucleotides 361 - 420
   1 ctgcctgggtcctctctttcatcctctgggctccagccattctcttctggcagttcattg
   2 ............................................................
   3 ............................................................
   4 ............................................................
   5 ............................................................
     ------------------------------------------------------------
nucleotides 421 - 480
   1 taggggtgagaactgtggaggatggggagtgctacattcagtttttttccaatgctgctg
   2 ............................................................
   3 ............................................................
   4 ............................................................
   5 ............................................................
     ------------------------------------------------------------
nucleotides 481 - 540
   1 tcacctttggtacggctattgcagccttctatttgccagtgatcatcatgactgtgctat
   2 ............................................................
   3 ............................................................
   4 ................c...........................................
   5 ................c.........................................g.
     ----------------+-----------------------------------------+-
nucleotides 541 - 600
   1 attggcacatatcccgagccagcaagagcaggataaagaaggacaagaaggagcctgttg
   2 ............................................................
   3 .................................................a..........
   4 ............................................................
   5 .c..........................................................
     -+-----------------------------------------------+----------
nucleotides 601 - 660
   1 ccaaccaagaccccgtttctccaagtctggtacaaggaaggatagtgaagccaaacaata
   2 ............................................................
   3 ............................................................
   4 ............................................................
   5 ............................................................
     ------------------------------------------------------------
nucleotides 661 - 720
   1 acaacatgcccagcagtgacgatggcctggagcacaacaaaatccagaatggcaaagccc
   2 ............................................................
   3 ............................................................
   4 ............................................................
   5 ............................................................
     ------------------------------------------------------------
nucleotides 721 - 780
   1 ccagggatcctgtgactgaaaactgtgttcagggagaggagaaggagagctccaatgact
   2 ............................................................
   3 ............................................................
   4 ............................................................
   5 ....a................................a......................
     ----+--------------------------------+----------------------
nucleotides 781 - 840
   1 ccacctcagtcagtgctgttgcctctaatatgagagatgatgaaataacccaggatgaaa
   2 ............................................................
   3 ............................................................
   4 ............................................................
   5 ........................................c...................
     ----------------------------------------+-------------------
nucleotides 841 - 900
   1 acacagtttccacttccctgggccattccaaagatgagaactctaagcaaacatgcatca
   2 ............................................................
   3 ............................................................
   4 ............................................................
   5 .......c................................t...................
     -------+--------------------------------+-------------------
nucleotides 901 - 960
   1 gaattggcaccaagaccccaaaaagtgactcatgtaccccaactaataccaccgtggagg
   2 ............................................................
   3 ............................................................
   4 ............................................................
   5 ...................c....t.............t.....................
     -------------------+----+-------------+---------------------
nucleotides 961 - 1020
   1 tagtggggtcttcaggtcagaatggagatgaaaagcagaatattgtagcccgcaagattg
   2 ............................................................
   3 ............................................................
   4 ............................................................
   5 .......a....................................................
     -------+----------------------------------------------------
nucleotides 1021 - 1080
   1 tgaagatgactaagcagcctgcaaaaaagaagcctcctccttcccgggaaaagaaagtca
   2 ............................................................
   3 ............................................................
   4 ................n...........................................
   5 ............................................................
     ----------------+-------------------------------------------
nucleotides 1081 - 1140
   1 ccaggacaatcttggctattctgttggctttcatcatcacttgggccccatacaatgtca
   2 ............................................................
   3 ............................................................
   4 ............................................................
   5 ............................................................
     ------------------------------------------------------------
nucleotides 1141 - 1200
   1 tggtgctcattaacaccttttgtgcaccttgcatccccaacactgtgtggacaattggtt
   2 ............................................................
   3 ............................................................
   4 ............................................................
   5 ............................................................
     ------------------------------------------------------------
nucleotides 1201 - 1260
   1 actggctttgttacatcaacagcactatcaaccctgcctgctatgcactttgcaatgcca
   2 ............................................................
   3 ....................................................t.......
   4 ....................................................t.......
   5 ....................................................t.......
     ----------------------------------------------------+-------
nucleotides 1261 - 1320
   1 ccttcaagaagacctttaaacaccttctcatgtgtcattataagaacataggcgctacaa
   2 ............................................................
   3 ............................................................
   4 ............................................................
   5 ............................................................
     ------------------------------------------------------------
nucleotides 1321 - 1332
   1 ggtaaaa-----
   2 ............
   3 .......tatct
   4 ............
   5 ............
     -------+++++
The differences between, say, man and chimp are just a very small number of point mutations, plus 5 basepairs tacked on the end which may be the tail-end "fuzz" that sometimes accumulates on genes during copying (and which gorillas and orangutans don't even have either).
1,687 posted on 08/20/2003 1:55:07 PM PDT by Ichneumon
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