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New Dinosaur Species Found in India
AP ^ | August 13, 2003 | RAMOLA TALWAR BADAM

Posted on 08/13/2003 9:02:05 PM PDT by nwrep

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To: Junior
You sayin' hillbillies love their daddies?

Truly, I'm surrounded by barbarians.

2,681 posted on 08/25/2003 1:02:31 PM PDT by PatrickHenry (Hic amor, haec patria est.)
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To: goodseedhomeschool (returned)
Hi. What happened with the telescope?
2,682 posted on 08/25/2003 1:02:32 PM PDT by js1138
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To: Doctor Stochastic
A very good one. :)
2,683 posted on 08/25/2003 1:02:40 PM PDT by goodseedhomeschool (returned) (If history has shown us anything, labeling ignorance science, proves scripture correct)
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To: Da_Shrimp
I am very glad you are here and welcome your posts! I'm very pleased that we share the same interests.
2,684 posted on 08/25/2003 1:03:06 PM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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To: biblewonk
This is a flawed argument. It is the same as the Catholic who invents hundreds of doctrines about Mary and says that just because the Bible doesn't say them doesn't mean that they aren't true. When the bible puts the rest of the universe at the feet of the earth regarding creation, that is all it needs to say. One must reject the whole 6 day creation and substitute some theistic evolution theory to allow any possiblity of importance to the rest of the universe.

The argument I presented is not flawed. If you want to compare it to someone claiming large amounts of doctrines concerning Mary can be true because the bible does not refute it, so be it. Let's discuss that. Why would that person not be correct in their beliefs?

You also stated I am probably not comfortable with a 6-day creation theory. This is incorrect - God could create anything at any time. How the Earth was created could well be one of many things, including Big-Bang type development, all of which, IMO, do not refute Genesis. I happen to believe that the first four days of Genesis could have spanned a long, long time (no sun, moon, no standard days - I am sure you have heard this argument before).

2,685 posted on 08/25/2003 1:03:16 PM PDT by Shryke
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To: js1138
telescope?
2,686 posted on 08/25/2003 1:03:29 PM PDT by goodseedhomeschool (returned) (If history has shown us anything, labeling ignorance science, proves scripture correct)
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To: RadioAstronomer
I agree. I always welcome your posts! :-)

Thanks!

2,687 posted on 08/25/2003 1:03:31 PM PDT by Da_Shrimp
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To: goodseedhomeschool (returned)
Microscope. Sorry.
2,688 posted on 08/25/2003 1:04:59 PM PDT by js1138
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To: PatrickHenry
But as Spock said, "...for nowhere else am I more sorely needed..."
2,689 posted on 08/25/2003 1:05:29 PM PDT by Aracelis
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To: DittoJed2
Yet, in America, our stable representative democracy becomes more and more unstable only as the religiosity of a nation founded upon Judeo Christian values grows dimmer and dimmer.

Our stable representative democracy fought a vicious civil war back when we were more than 90% Christian. It fought off several minor rebellions between 1789 and 1861. The most outwardly Christian region of the country dienfranchised almost all its black citizens from about 1880 through the mid 1960's. In brief, there is no objective evidence that American representative democracy has been stabilized by religion.

2,690 posted on 08/25/2003 1:05:42 PM PDT by Right Wing Professor
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To: js1138
I got a nice one thank you for asking.
2,691 posted on 08/25/2003 1:05:45 PM PDT by goodseedhomeschool (returned) (If history has shown us anything, labeling ignorance science, proves scripture correct)
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To: whattajoke
I got y'all beat. I've read 120 percent of the Protestant Bible. 'Course, my Bible has the Apocrypha in it ...
2,692 posted on 08/25/2003 1:06:05 PM PDT by Junior (Killed a six pack ... just to watch it die.)
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To: PatrickHenry
Barbarians and don't forget heathens!!

See what kind of friends you have? ;)
2,693 posted on 08/25/2003 1:06:09 PM PDT by Aric2000 (If the history of science shows us anything, it is that we get nowhere by labeling our ignorance god)
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To: Alamo-Girl
I am very glad you are here and welcome your posts! I'm very pleased that we share the same interests.

Thanks Alamo-Girl... which reminds me, did you manage to find the stuff about the Kabbalah? Don't worry if you can't this ain't no hassle!

2,694 posted on 08/25/2003 1:06:17 PM PDT by Da_Shrimp
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To: goodseedhomeschool (returned)
Welcome back! DittoJed2 has been pretty much carrying the YEC argument these last few days. I'm sure your help will be much appreciated.
2,695 posted on 08/25/2003 1:07:45 PM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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To: Junior
There is no such thing as "Darwinian philosophy." The closest you might come would be laissez faire capitalism. The Nazi philosophy was based on Theosophy and its corrupted teachings that God created a perfect race (the Aryans) and all other races are corrupted, or fallen, versions of the Aryans.

Hitler was an evolutionist, who believed that Jews were almost completely ape and that blacks were predominantly ape.

Simply because your pastor said Naziism was based on Darwinism does not make it so. And, your contention of being a historian means you hold yourself to a higher level of standards than that of the average historically-illiterate bohunk that occasionally pops up on these threads. We've been down this road dozens of times. You won't find many quotes wherein Hitler claims to be fulfilling Darwin's work, but we can post several wherein he claims to be doing God's work.
In my undergraduate studies, where I was also a history major (double major), the History of Nazi Germany was one of my better subjects. My final grade in that class (at a large secular university) was 106. Please do not accuse me of historically illiterate bohunk or accuse my pastor as having taught me a single thing about Nazism. My pastor and I haven't even discussed Hitler to my recollection and never even had what I would consider a conversation of Evolution. As a matter of fact, he's never preached on the subject. My knowledge comes from historical study and your presumptions are the epitomy of the kind of elitism that pervades your group.

You opened up this can of worms. The discussion was going nicely up to this point. It can continue along that path, but the choice is up to you.
Because I don't play by your rules and try to draw out philosophical implications of your belief system, I have opened up a can of worms. Well, fine, can of worms or no can, my comments on Darwinism will stand for what they are. I have posted quotes from Darwin and co. to back them up, yet the see no evil, hear no evil crowd still accuses me of trolling. Whatever guys. Whatever.
2,696 posted on 08/25/2003 1:08:17 PM PDT by DittoJed2
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To: goodseedhomeschool (returned)
My thought removed by moderator before I could post it.
2,697 posted on 08/25/2003 1:08:58 PM PDT by Bluntpoint
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To: Shryke
The argument I presented is not flawed. If you want to compare it to someone claiming large amounts of doctrines concerning Mary can be true because the bible does not refute it, so be it. Let's discuss that. Why would that person not be correct in their beliefs?

The basis for that belief is tradition and a self defined value to the words of a self defined position known as a pope. The bible says enough about it's own value and the value of being born again and being taught by God that one can disgard something as man made as the RC church and it's beliefs. Your statement "Why would that person not be correct" may be applied to any belief though so I'm not sure if you are defending RC beliefs in particular or any individual beliefs in general. I've certainly spent 1000's of posts on the topic of RC Marianism with RC's and I realize that we are not going to solve or even add anything to that debate.

You also stated I am probably not comfortable with a 6-day creation theory. This is incorrect - God could create anything at any time. How the Earth was created could well be one of many things, including Big-Bang type development, all of which, IMO, do not refute Genesis. I happen to believe that the first four days of Genesis could have spanned a long, long time (no sun, moon, no standard days - I am sure you have heard this argument before).

Saddly.

2,698 posted on 08/25/2003 1:09:03 PM PDT by biblewonk (Spose to be a Chrisssssssstian)
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To: Junior; Piltdown_Woman; Aric2000
In keeping with my mission to enlighten the lurkers, my latest tagline: Hic amor, haec patria est is from Virgil's Aneid. When AEneas fled the fall of Troy and came to Latium (Italy), where he became the legendary founder of the Etruscans, from whom the noble Romans claimed descent, he declared of his adopted homeland (says Virgil): "This is my love, this is my country."
2,699 posted on 08/25/2003 1:13:23 PM PDT by PatrickHenry (Hic amor, haec patria est.)
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To: Alamo-Girl
2700?
2,700 posted on 08/25/2003 1:13:40 PM PDT by Aric2000 (If the history of science shows us anything, it is that we get nowhere by labeling our ignorance god)
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