New Dinosaur Species Found in India

AP ^ | August 13, 2003 | RAMOLA TALWAR BADAM

[Da_Shrimp]

Cousin? I doubt that.

Why?

[whattajoke]

Can you do everyone a favor and clarify what or why it was you left FR in the first place?

Thank you and welcome back. You missed a lot including our agreement of the willing, which, knowing you, you'll be more than happy to sign. Alamo-Girl will help you out.

[DittoJed2]

The Bible doesn't claim that everyone who hears its message will convert. It even calls some "willfully ignorant" of its message, meaning they choose by will to refuse the message. Your not accepting proves this portion of Scripture to be correct.

By the way, in light of a supernatural God, what parts of the Old Testament do you view as "silly"?

[Junior]

There is nothing that doesn't remind me of God, either. However, I don't consider science to be religious or religion. I especially don't pick and choose what science I accept based upon some subjective reading of Scripture. I can no more toss out evolutionary bio;ogy than I can quantum physics; they are inextricably bound up together and with the entire totality of the body of science. And there is really no reason to throw out any science. If it flies in the face of your deeply-held worldview, maybe you should reexamine the latter. The rest of us Christians have come to grips with it and found it doesn't alter our faith one iota.

[PatrickHenry]

Not quite true. The arch Anti-Darwinist, Lysenko, did call for the execution of Darwinists. A few were executed which did contribute the mass starvations.

Right. Shows what an anti-science mentality can do. Oh, to be totally fair about it, there is one potential tyrant who has had biology training. The current dictator of Syria is a physician. Of course, he never planned to go into the family business. If he turns out to be no different from the other middle-east tyrants, I guess Darwin will get the blame for his misdeeds.

[balrog666]

How'd you change your name from ct so fast?

I hope you apologized to JR.

balrog

[Right Wing Professor]

If man arose by means of chance random mutation followed by natural selection, then there is no more value in human beings than in any other creature.

By the same logic, there is no more value in a dog than a bacterium. Clearly that's false; people, including atheists, love their dogs. But more importantly, why does people's origin have to determine how we value them? If a baby is placed on our doorstep because the mother randomly chose a place to abandon it, does that mean the baby has no value?

And, without a moral law from above, the result is an unstable democracy.

The countries of Scandinavia are thriving democracies, and have been for a long time, yet active religious observance is under 5% in all of them. In contrast, Germany, Spain and Italy are far more religious, and yet all three have been fascist in the last 60 years. There seems to be little correlation between religiosity and democracy.

[CobaltBlue]

Genetic testing suggests that mankind started losing body hair maybe 1.2 million years ago, and may have been light skinned under dark hair, as chimpanzees are, before then.

Afterwards, mankind evolved dark skin while living in Africa, and light skin after leaving Africa.

One of the most fascinating areas of study are genetic differences between body lice and head lice - they occupy two different ecological niches and can't adapt, so the time they separated may well be the time that man started losing wearing clothing, roughtly 50,000 years ago.
http://www.theledger.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20030824/NEWS/308240336/1021

[PatrickHenry]

Don't be sidtracked or distracted in any way by the provocative insults of trolls (that's all trolls in general). It keeps the peace and harmony of these threads to just ignore them.

[Right Wing Professor]

Off for a while.

[js1138]

...it is really silly to imagine that man could have lived in caves for 2 million years and then exponentially accelerated his development in the last 2000 years.

I am truely mystified as to why this sounds silly. What specifically is silly?

[Da_Shrimp]

Thanks that for that. I have no idea what the fact that I'm English has to do with anything on this thread!

[goodseedhomeschool (returned)]

LOL yeah ok. Thanks for the welcome though.
I did not leave willingly that's for sure. I was baited and then booted. I am not sure what happened. I am not going to let that happen again. I feel like there was a small group who may have set me up. I can't prove it, but it sure seemed that way. I see some other good FR posters have left. I think they were a lot of fun and do not understnad why it happened. Is this the future of any posters who are not evolutionists? Catch em on another thread and blast off? Set em up to knock em down? I had some very real and important questions and was looking for good answers and I got a slap instead. How do we expect to ever unify in our conservatism if we cannot do it here? I am ever the with hope though.
I have missed some of you a lot I must say.

[biblewonk]

And I do find it odd that you won't discuss the bible with RadioAstronomer (or was it RWP?) Why not? Does it lend to the possibility that one can read the bible and not suddenly convert to evangelism? Well, I know I've read about 75% of the bible, I know Aric2000 has read the whole thing. And somehow we're not able to really understand it? how is that?

You definitely don't understand it if you don't believe it. If you have read it and reject what it says why would I presume to think that you would allow yourself to be shown to have missed something by the likes of me. I know the human will better than that.

And what's the problem with the exponential argument thing except probably my spelling which is terrible. It is really silly to think that mankind would live like cave man and accomplish nothing for 2 million years then suddenly start using tools and building things. Noah, if I may use a bible example, built a ship 450 feet long but what was his technological basis? Not much. Because man doesn't sit in a cave for 2 million years then spring out and build an ark.

[js1138]

Dark skin is definitely an advanced adaptation. If I were a racist I would argue that those who have not adapted to bare skin are closer to the ape ;^)

[goodseedhomeschool (returned)]

LOL you're slick. I am not surprised. I wondered what took ya so long.
I have no hard feelings toward anyone.

[CobaltBlue]

Mandeans are primarily in Southern Iraq, not Iran. Some very interesting versions of Christianity survive in Iraq, including the Assyrians and Chaldeans. Mandeans, Assyrians and Chaldeans all speak Aramaic, the language Christ spoke.

[Junior]

As a historian, I can point to Nazism as having sprung in part from Darwinian philosophy.

There is no such thing as "Darwinian philosophy." The closest you might come would be laissez faire capitalism. The Nazi philosophy was based on Theosophy and its corrupted teachings that God created a perfect race (the Aryans) and all other races are corrupted, or fallen, versions of the Aryans.

Simply because your pastor said Naziism was based on Darwinism does not make it so. And, your contention of being a historian means you hold yourself to a higher level of standards than that of the average historically-illiterate bohunk that occasionally pops up on these threads. We've been down this road dozens of times. You won't find many quotes wherein Hitler claims to be fulfilling Darwin's work, but we can post several wherein he claims to be doing God's work.

You opened up this can of worms. The discussion was going nicely up to this point. It can continue along that path, but the choice is up to you.

[Da_Shrimp]

I have no hard feelings toward anyone

Apart from me, apparently.

[Shryke]

Ok, I see where you are coming from, partially. I would agree that the scripture regarding the elder is quite specific regarding males, and these types of inferences occur throughout the bible.

However, I believe you are drawing a rather flawed conclusion regarding other planets and the possibility of life elsewhere. The lack of biblical details concerning non-terran events does not mean that those events did not happen, IMHO. Additionally, the quotation of the bible regarding God sending his only son to earth does not preclude life elsewhere. It only precludes that his son (human male child) has not been there - which would be entirely likely if some non-terran life form was not human, would it not? Even the verse from Genesis regarding man being created in the image of God doesn't mean life is terran only.

Also, please understand I am not debating the validity of your beliefs, or the bible. I am debating your interpretations of inferences.