New Dinosaur Species Found in India

AP ^ | August 13, 2003 | RAMOLA TALWAR BADAM

[VadeRetro]

(Algebra is full of surprises.)

I get the basic idea, thanks! My vector skills are pretty rudimentary. I think they're going to have to stay that way.

[DittoJed2]

Aric,

God Himself coming in front of your face would not convince you of Creationism. I have now had 3 evolutionists tell me the big bang is insignificant to their theory. I'm perfectly willing to throw the fairy tale out.

[jennyp]

Huh, so this is what 7am looks like!

[general_re]

It has to be that way - things would get awfully ugly awfully quick if that were considered a legitimate debate tactic. I'll make sure of it - there are still a few people bopping around here who I'd use that rule against early and often.

Like you. Don't ever post to me again. Ever. You're a liar and a thief, gall-bladder boy. And a poophead. And if you respond to me to answer these charges, you'll be banned for violating my request to not post to me. So there.

[VadeRetro]

Huh, so this is what 7am looks like!

No, it isn't!!!

[DittoJed2]

That said, I'm not about to "cut mine out" as you suggested. I will admit though, your (I'm sure tongue in cheek) suggestion certainly does have an Old Testament ring to it. I'm quite lucky in that I still have 20/20 vision and I'm 30. This is rare and I know it.

Jesus was in the New Testament. It was him who said if your eye offends you, pluck it out. There was an eye for an eye tooth for a tooth in the Old Testament, but the particular reference is from the new.

Degeneration is a result of the fall.

I'm very interested to know the evidences for this claim.
Don't lie.

I want to be fully prepared next time I have my eyes tested to sound well educated to the Ophthalmologist. "Gee, doc, see... Adam ate an apple 6000 years ago and then his mutated rib named Eve ate an apple and the snake laughed at them and now I can't see so well at night."

2 Peter 3:3-7
First of all, you must understand that in the last days scoffers will come, scoffing and following their own evil desires. They will say, "Where is this 'coming' he promised? Ever since our fathers died, everything goes on as it has since the beginning of creation." But they deliberately forget that long ago by God's word the heavens existed and the earth was formed out of water and by water. By these waters also the world of that time was deluged and destroyed. By the same word the present heavens and earth are reserved for fire, being kept for the day of judgment and destruction of ungodly men.

And you're "incredulous" when it comes to evolution?? Yes, I am.

[VadeRetro]

SOME Amelicans have rots of nerve, generary speaking!

[js1138]

It could be argued that our eyes are pretty much our worst body part.

Eyes work pretty well, considering. The absolute worst part of the humany body is the support of our viscera, which appears to have been designed for walking on all fours.

[Alamo-Girl]

Thank you both so much for the heads ups to your disagreement!

Off hand, I would ditto general_re’s suggestion that you guys “take it outside” - perhaps the Phoebe thread? This thread has turned up some excellent analysis and research for all of us, there is widespread peaceful discourse and thus any food fight is a distraction.

But at this moment in time I have a special request to make of you, Ichneumon. Something is troubling AndrewC and has been for several days now. And whereas he is usually one of the finest and crispiest debaters in the Creation/Intelligent Design camp – at the moment, something else is on his mind.

It really doesn’t matter what that something else is – it could be the dog died, the wife is angry or a sense of indignation – but right now, IMHO, it is best to ignore AndrewC’s posts – no matter what he says - and let him deal with things in his own way.

I’m hoping that it will not be long before both of you will want to tackle one another on science issues in brisk debate. It is a delight to read both of your excellent posts!!!

[<1/1,000,000th%]

Namely, Lord Kelvin had rather carefully calculated that the sun could be no older than 30 million years, based on the assumption that what powered the sun was the gravitational energy of the matter that had fallen together to form it in the first place - you add up how much gravitational energy a mass the size of the sun would have, and divide by the rate at which the sun is radiating away energy.

He also made a calculation about the age of the earth based on heat flow and current temperatures, but radioactivity was unknown at the time. The extra heating due to the radioactive decay is why his age calculation was wrong.

[<1/1,000,000th%]

Geologists do do this.

I knew some geologists who were do do. :)

Sorry. Couldn't resist. ;)

[js1138]

Degeneration is a result of the fall.

Did man walk on all fours before the Fall? Else why is our gutbag hung from a suspension that only works correctly in a horizontal mode?

[VadeRetro]

I knew some geologists who were do do.

Did they specialize in coprolites?

[goodseedhomeschool (returned)]

You really never answered the loser question. I wonder if you are avoiding it.

[general_re]

SOME Amelicans have rots of nerve, generary speaking!

Ah ha! If you rot-13 this post, it translates to "FBZR Nzryvpnaf unir ebgf bs areir, trarenel fcrnxvat!", which is CLEARLY an elliptical reference to me! Listen, poophead, leave me out of your posts. You're just asking for trouble, now...

[VadeRetro]

He also made a calculation about the age of the earth based on heat flow and current temperatures, but radioactivity was unknown at the time. The extra heating due to the radioactive decay is why his age calculation was wrong.

Incredibly, you sometimes see Kelvin quote-mined with no mention of the source of his errors.

[Right Wing Professor]

It was a joke haiku that criticizes haikus. Lighten up!

[Physicist]

I can report that, in my experience, requests from one poster to another to stop posting to them are generally expected to be honored by the moderators - whether right or wrong

I'll concur. About a year ago, a certain poster posted an ugly column by Roger Ebert, which had been written (and posted) some months before. The interesting thing was that Roger Ebert himself had repudiated the column and apologized thoroughly shortly after publishing it. When I (politely) pointed this out on the thread, the poster went absolutely non-differentiable and--get this--forbade me to reply to any more of "his" threads. He then proceeded to berate me via Freepmail, and became further enraged when I (politely) responded. Next thing I know, I get a Freepmail from JimRob himself asking me not to contact the poster on the forum or via Freepmail.

It may not seem like justice, but actually I was touched by it. Jim knew the score, but he trusted me to swallow my aggravation to keep the peace, and not to bitch about a real unfairness. He physically does not have the time to adjudicate every petty squabble on the forum, and in that case he had an out: he knew that a single word to me would get the matter out of his hair. And it did. (The toughest part is that the poster in question posts so infrequently, I have to remind myself every couple of months what his screen name is. Once I very nearly posted a reply to him by mistake.)

What I'm saying is that the better man will suck it up for Jim's sake. And will everyone please stop pinging him?

[VadeRetro]

Are you talking to me? Are you talking to ME!!??

[js1138]

Argument from Majority opinion is invalid.

Argument from results is not. Name one useful medical product that was invented as a result of assuming humans are not biological cousins of other animals. Name one medical laboritory that does not first test medicines and procedures on animals.

It is interesting that for decades, medical laboratories tested on rats and mice (because the research was useful), and just within the last month we find we are more closely related to rats than to cats and dogs.