To: DittoJed2
Argument from Majority opinion is invalid. Argument from results is not. Name one useful medical product that was invented as a result of assuming humans are not biological cousins of other animals. Name one medical laboritory that does not first test medicines and procedures on animals.
It is interesting that for decades, medical laboratories tested on rats and mice (because the research was useful), and just within the last month we find we are more closely related to rats than to cats and dogs.
To: js1138
... we are more closely related to rats than to cats and dogs. Why am I not surprised? Why is my cat not surprised?
To: js1138
This is just arrogance, but it is typical of evolutionists. When it comes to "the theory" claims are made that so much advance has occurred due to evolution while creationists are just dunces who haven't contributed squat. Garbage! This view suffers from two faulty assumptions. 1) that evolutionary theory is the reason that experiments on animals have proved beneficial. An evolutionist wouldn't even consider the possibility that it could just be that experiments on animals are helpful and that evolution has nothing to do with it. 2) it suffers from the view that if a scientist comes at a project with a creationist worldview that his work is somehow inferior. Historically speaking, most of the greatest scientists of all time have approached the world with a creationist point of view. Many of their experiments were pursued because of direct observation of how God's creation works. Many adamantly opposed evolution as well.
Here are a few in the medical field who had strong creationist worldviews and some of whom without their work modern medicine would still be in the dark ages:
James Simpson (1811-1879) discovered chloroform and laid the foundation for anesthesiology. He said his motivation to perform the research leading to this discovery was a fascination in the book of Genesis with Adam's deep sleep during the time in which Eve was fashioned from his side. He said his biggest discovery was finding Jesus Christ as Savior.
Louis Pasteur (1822-1895) was the father of bacteriology. He established the germ theory of disease. His persistent objections to the theory of spontaneous generation and to Darwinism made him unpopular with the scientific establishment of his day. He was a Christian with extremely strong religious convictions.Also involved with Biochemistry; Sterilization; Immunization
Joseph Lister (1827-1912) founded antiseptic surgical methods. Lister's contributions have probably led to more lives being saved through modern medicine than the contributions of any one else except Pasteur. Like Pasteur, Lister was also a Christian and wrote, "I am a believer in the fundamental doctrines of Christianity."
Georges Cuvier (1769-1832) was the founder of the science of comparative anatomy and one of the chief architects of paleontology as a separate scientific discipline. He was a firm creationist, participating in some of the important creation/evolution debates of his time.
Gregory Mendel (1822-1884) was the father of genetics. He had strong religious convictions and chose the life of a monk. He was a creationist and rejected Darwins's ideas, even though he was familiar with them.
Dr. Verna Wright was a rhematologist who espoused creationism in his writing.
James Simpson (18111870) made headway in the fields of Gynecology and Anesthesiology
To: js1138
Okay, Joseph Lister - disinfectant antiseptic.
The medical laboratory question is irrelevant.
To: js1138
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