New Dinosaur Species Found in India

AP ^ | August 13, 2003 | RAMOLA TALWAR BADAM

[AndrewC]

Real in what sense?

In all of them.

[VadeRetro]

Here's a hint if my previous post is cryptic. Gravitational fields amount to negative mass/energy.

[AndrewC]

Poster-boy example for a "How Not To Spin the Casimir Effect" education campaign.

Do you have nothing more than belittling in your descriptions? I thought you in good faith agreed not to do this sort of thing.

[ThinkPlease]

When you approach your evidence, do you make assumptions or is there a blank slate? (such as, do you approach fossils in layers and assume a certain age? )

No, since in astronomy, there is something called the distance scale. It is a series of experiments and observations that use a variety of astronomical phoenomenon to build a reliable set of distances from sources as close as the nearest star to distant quasars and galaxies.

The Key Project of the Hubble Space Telescope was to minimise the amount of error in the distance scale and to use those measurements to determine the Hubble Constant to a good deal of precision.

The distance scale starts off with a fairly straightforward trigonometric relation called the Parallax Distances using parallax are rock solid. However, they aren't good to very far, only about 10,000 light years. However, given a constant speed of light, that age of the universe already gives contemporary creationist theory fits.

Next on the distance scale utilizes statistics, and basic observations of a large amount of stars to come up with a constant diagram (called the Hertzsprung-Russell Diagram) which shows that stars of a certain color and brightness tend to lay along a certain region of it. Give the spectrum of a star and its brightness in the sky, you can find the distance of it to about 20%.

From there, you can hook up with Cepheid variables. These variable stars have a period dependent on the mass of the star. Mass depends on absolute luminosity of the star, and from there you can determine a distance. This measurement to several nearby galaxies was the first relationship that the Hubble Key Project used to find the distances to several nearby galaxies.

To check their distances, they used a number of other distance measurements such as the Thully-Fisher relationship, Type-1a Supernovae, and other, more esoteric methods.

So you see, the concept of things at large distances (and because of the speed limit of light, large ages) is something that is not built on by a whim, but is an interconnected set of concepts and evidence. You can't just knock one down and expect it to fall like a house of cards. It is here to stay.

[VadeRetro]

Do you have nothing more than belittling in your descriptions?

This is ridiculous! When a guy misses, you can tell him he missed. If you can't say that, you can't say anything.

[VadeRetro]

Oh, well! Back on topic:

When you cancel the mass/energy of the universe with the gravity of the universe, you get a sum very close to zero. Hawking calls it the biggest free lunch ever.

[BMCDA]

Uh.. wait: You use those plates to measure the effect.
However, you cannot say that those fluctuations are caused in any meaningful way.

[Right Wing Professor]

Can you see it, hear it, touch it, feel it? My keyboard is real in all those senses.

[AndrewC]

If you can't say that, you can't say anything.

Choose different words.

[VadeRetro]

Join the agreement.

[AndrewC]

Can you see it, hear it, touch it, feel it?

Every one of those.

[AndrewC]

Join the agreement.

Why such a preoccupation with me joining the agreement? You do not seem so interested in having Sabertooth join the agreement.

[jennyp]

Over the past several centuries, including some recent, there have been spottings by reputable sources of animals resembling pterodactyls, plesiosaurs, and other dinosaur like creatures. One of these places where the most spottings occur has been in the swamp land of Africa. Some in New Zealand, some in Venezuela. There is a very convincing case to show that not only have they existed throughout time (they weren't called dinosaurs in ancient literature as the word wasn't even invented until 1841) but they exist today.

The discovery of any one of these would be very, very cool. However, you do realize of course that the Theory of Evolution concerns itself with when species split off from one another - it doesn't care how long a species will last before it becomes extinct?

You don't think that finding a small population of living dodo birds or carrier pigeons or Tasmanian wolves would invalidate theories of how they came about in the first place, do you?

[DittoJed2]

The distance scale starts off with a fairly straightforward trigonometric relation called the Parallax Distances using parallax are rock solid. However, they aren't good to very far, only about 10,000 light years. However, given a constant speed of light, that age of the universe already gives contemporary creationist theory fits.
There is your ASSUMPTION. You have assumed a constant speed of light. You also appear to be saying speed=distance. In the laboratory, they have been able to speed up and slow down light speed. Even stop it. There is also some evidence that the speed of light is in fact slowing and it has been measured to have slowed down over time. Light year is a speed, not a distance.

[Aric2000]

As I get older, time seems to go faster.

I guess as I get older, a minute becomes less compared to the amounts of minutes in my life.

It seems like yesterday that my Eldest daughter was born, and she is 7, and for god's sake, Christmas is about to hit me upside the head.

Time flies, and it's about to go supersonic, or so it feels.

[VadeRetro]

Sabertooth didn't sign, but then he isn't hypocritically nitpicking every *evo* post, or even every creo post, or even every signatory post.

[AndrewC]

Gravitational fields amount to negative mass/energy.

Your link gives me pause. Suppose you have 2 masses A and B separated by some distance R1. Is there a non-zero gravitational field between them?

[editor-surveyor]

"Just curious, but what would you say about Christians who are of the opinion that God chose evolution as the mechanism for the existence of life?"

They're in far worse shape than the Evo-atheists.

[AndrewC]

Sabertooth didn't sign, but then he isn't hypocritically nitpicking every *evo* post, or even every creo post, or even every signatory post.

I thought motive guessing was also prohibited by the agreement.

[VadeRetro]

Yes.