Senator Urges Californians to Reject Recall (Fein Swine Alert)

Reuters via Yahoo News ^ | 10Aug 2003 | Lori Santos

[SkyPilot]

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - With the candidates in place for California's extraordinary fall recall election, politicians hit the airwaves on Sunday to challenge both the embattled Democratic governor, Gray Davis, and his apparent chief rival, Hollywood superstar Arnold Schwarzenegger.

U.S. Sen. Dianne Feinstein (news, bio, voting record), California's senior senator, told NBC's "Meet the Press" she believed the unpopular incumbent could defeat the unprecedented effort to remove him from office.

"I think the governor has a good opportunity to defeat this recall," said Feinstein. "My view is that this recall should be defeated. It's bad for California."

But former Republican Gov. Pete Wilson, Davis's predecessor in Sacramento, said he thought the odds were "pretty slim" Davis would win.

"I think he will be recalled and I think Arnold Schwarzenegger will be elected governor," Wilson said on CBS's "Face the Nation."

The special election on Oct. 7 in the nation's largest state dominated the Sunday talk shows, with much of the focus on "Terminator" actor Schwarzenegger, the high-profile Republican who has grabbed headlines and popular support with his candidacy. A Time/CNN poll released Saturday found Schwarzenegger would win 25 percent of the vote if the election were held now, 10 points ahead of his closest competitor, the Democratic lieutenant governor, Cruz Bustamante.

Bill Simon, a prominent Republican businessman who was defeated by Davis in 2002, said the wealthy actor had "tremendous" name identification and would focus attention on the recall but had shared little in terms of policy.

"We don't know where he stands on the issues," Simon told "Fox News Sunday."

DEFICIT, ENERGY CRUNCH

He said Californians believed they had been lied to by Davis over the size of the state's budget deficit, one of the issues that has carved into Davis's popularity in the wake of an energy crunch two years ago.

"I am quite confident that he is going to be recalled," Simon said.

Republican state Sen. Tom McClintock, another of the estimated 150-plus candidates who filed for the race by Saturday's deadline, took aim at the apparent front-runner.

"There's a great deal that I'm sure Arnold Schwarzenegger could teach me about making movies. There's a great deal I could teach him about fiscal reforms necessary to set this state right," McClintock said on ABC's "This Week."

On NBC, Feinstein bemoaned the media "explosion ... largely for one candidate" and urged that Davis, who won a landslide victory in 1998 and was re-elected just 10 months ago, be given equal coverage.

Feinstein opted out of the race, as well as the state's insurance commissioner, John Garamendi, leaving Democrats with a single high-profile candidate in Bustamante.

On ABC, Bustamante defended his decision to join the ballot, saying he acted only after it became clear the Democratic effort to derail the recall "wasn't working."

"We need to make sure we vote no on the recall, but just in case, we have to vote yes on Bustamante," he said.

San Francisco Mayor Willie Brown, a Democrat, said the going will get tougher for Schwarzenegger. "He's not going to get a free ride," Brown told CBS. "He's not going to be on the 'Jay Leno (news - Y! TV)' show. He's going to have to go man-to-man with Gray Davis."

Others in the race were porn magazine publisher Larry Flynt, columnist Arianna Huffington, businessman and former Olympic organizer Peter Ueberroth and billboard pinup Angelyne.

[SkyPilot]

I love the comment about Arnold having to go mano to mano with Davis.

[savedbygrace]

150 candidates? Unreal.

I wonder how many voters will look at that ballot and decide to NOT recall Davis, just so they don't have to try to find a candidate they want to vote for? Or vote for some name on the first page of the ballot they think they recognize, just so they don't spend a lot of time searching through 150 names?

The point is, the size of the ballot with 150 names could work against the process. Until I read this, I expected a couple dozen names, but not 150.

[NautiNurse]

"We need to make sure we vote no on the recall, but just in case, we have to vote yes on Bustamante"

I thought the two options were mutually exclusive.

[South40]

[NautiNurse]

I wonder how many voters will look at that ballot and decide to keep it as a souvenier.

[BOBTHENAILER]

Notice what Reuter's forgot to mention about her appearance:

Twice, TWICE, feinswine said the economy is coming back.

Note to RATS, you can't have it both ways. If the reason to keep gray in office is that the economy is coming back, then it should be a good reason to return Bush to office in '04.

6 posted on 08/10/2003 6:07 AM PDT by mombonn (¡Viva Bush/Cheney!) [ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies | Report Abuse ]

Headline should have been:

DEMOCRAT SENATOR SAYS ECONOMY IS ON REBOUND. TAX CUTS WORKING.

[Ernest_at_the_Beach]

The point is, the size of the ballot with 150 names could work against the process.

Why do you say that?

[Ernest_at_the_Beach]

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[research99]

Per a story at: http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/chronicle/archive/2003/08/10/RECALL.TMP

"Davis...speaking to reporters (after a bill signing)... challenged Schwarzenegger and the other replacement candidates to say how they would have:

(1) dealt with the state's power crunch or
(2) the $38 billion deficit that slowed passage of the state budget.

'Snappy one-liners get you only so far,' Davis said. 'There are tough problems.'"

Actually, a snappy one-liner would have solved these "2" tough problems.

(1) I just let Arnold's Press Rep guy that there was an "inside info" answer to this question -- there was a vast quantity of untapped energy that was in the system, but release was prevented by deliberate CPUC inaction throughout the 'Energy Crisis.'

(2) The inability to solve (1) directly led to (2), as the State spent its surplus on energy, then continued to spend into debt. This was recognized as far back as May 2001, by a leading financial publication.

We'll see if Arnold's staff is responsive enough to pick this up and run with it.

[savedbygrace]

I explained it in the previous paragraph. But to humor you, let me sum it up. Many people are lazy, and a large percentage of people can't read very well. I also hedged by including the word "could".

Why do feel challenged by my statement?

[South40]

Preliminary list of candidates to appear on the Oct. 7 recall ballot and the county where they filed. In some cases, the signatures they turned in to qualify still must be verified. The secretary of state's office late Saturday reported that 155 candidates had turned in candidacy papers, but it did not have a complete list of the names. The following list contains 134 candidates. The office said it will try to make a complete list available on Sunday and will certify a final list Wednesday.


DEMOCRATS
Vikramjit S. Bajwa, Sonoma
Audie E. Bock, Alameda
Art Brown, Los Angeles
Cruz M. Bustamante, Sacramento
Camilla Cochran, Santa Clara
Robert Cullenbine, Santa Clara
Bob Lynn Edwards, Alameda
Warren Farrell, San Diego
Dan Feinstein, San Francisco
Larry Flynt, Los Angeles
Lorraine Fontanes, Los Angeles
Diana Foss, Santa Clara
James Henry Green, San Francisco
Gerold Lee Gorman, Contra Costa
Joe Guzzardi, San Joaquin
Ralph A. Hernandez, Contra Costa
Edward Thomas Kennedy, Trinity
David E. Kessinger, Riverside
Kelly P. Kimball, Los Angeles
Eric Korevaar, San Diego
Dick Lane, Santa Clara
Gary Leonard, Los Angeles
Calvin Y. Louie, San Francisco
Frank A. Macaluso, Jr., Tulare
Paul "Chip" Mailander, San Diego
Robert C. Mannheim, Los Angeles
Bruce Martin Margolin, Los Angeles
Paul Mariano, Contra Costa
Scott A. Mednick, Los Angeles
Jonathan D. Miller, San Mateo
John "Jack" Mortensen, Sacramento
Paul James Nave, Marin
Donald A. Novello, Marin
Charles Chuck Pineda Jr., Sacramento
Bill Prady, Los Angeles
Christopher Ranken, San Mateo
David Laughing Horse Robinson, Kern
Georgy Russell, Santa Clara
Darrin H. Scheidle, San Diego
Mike Schmier, Alameda
Billy Ray Smith, San Francisco
Erik Smith, San Francisco
Christopher Sproul, San Francisco
Lawrence Steven Strauss, Los Angeles
Tim Sylvester, Santa Cruz
A. Lavar Taylor, Orange
Marc Valdez, Sacramento
William B. Vaughn, Contra Costa
Jim Weir, Nevada County
Lingel H. Winters, Alameda
Michael J. Wozniak, Alameda

REPUBLICANS
Douglas Anderson, Ventura
John W. Beard, Los Angeles
Ed Beyer, Orange
Cheryl Bly-Chester, Placer
Todd Carson, Orange
William S. Chambers, Placer
D. Logan Darrow Clements, Los Angeles
Robert A. Dole, Santa Clara
Joseph R. Evanns, Ventura
Gene Forte, Monterey
Richard Andrew Gosse, Marin
Jim Hoffmann, San Joaquin
Don Houston, Santa Clara
S. Issa, Los Angeles
Michael Jackson, Los Angeles
Stephen L. Knapp, Santa Clara
Dorene Musilli, Sonoma
Gino Martorana, Fresno County
Tom McClintock, Ventura
Mike McNeilly, Los Angeles
Carl A. Mehr, San Diego
Jeffrey L. Mock, Los Angeles
Joseph Morones, Sacramento
Geoff Nathanson, Los Angeles
Wolfgang Georg Neckien, Los Angeles
Heather Peters, Los Angeles
Bryan Quinn, Santa Clara
Reva Renz, Orange County
Daniel W. Richards, San Bernardino
Kevin Richter, San Joaquin
Jamie Rosemary Safford, Placer
David R. Sams, Ventura
Arnold Schwarzenegger, Los Angeles
Ralph S. "Rotten" Sherwood, Ventura
Bill Simon, Los Angeles
Beverly Thompson, Ventura
Peter V. Ueberroth, Orange
Paul W. Vann, Orange
Van Vo, Orange
Chuck Walker, Santa Cruz
Jon William Zellhoefer, Santa Clara

AMERICAN INDEPENDENT
Diane Beall Templin, San Diego

GREEN
Peter Miguel Camejo, Sacramento
Ivan Alexander Hall, Shasta
Maurice Walker, Alameda
Daniel T. Watts, Santa Clara

INDEPENDENT
Iris Adam, Orange
Brooke Adams, Orange
Angelyne, Los Angeles
Mohammad Arif, Los Angeles
Badi Badiozamani, San Diego
Joel Britton, Los Angeles
John Christopher Burton, Los Angeles
Michael Cheli, Sonoma
Gary Coleman, Alameda
Mary "Mary Carey" Cook
Scott W. Davis, Santa Clara
Ronald J. Friedman, Los Angeles
Leo Gallagher, Los Angeles
Jack Grisham, Orange
Sara Ann Hanlon, Los Angeles
Sharon Holland, San Francisco
Arianna Huffington, Los Angeles
Jerome Kunzman, Contra Costa
Todd Richard Lewis, Los Angeles
Shu Yih Liu, Los Angeles
Mike P. McCarthy, San Luis Obispo
Robert McClain, Alameda
Darryl L. Mobley, Contra Costa
J. Leonard Padilla, Sacramento
Jeff Rainforth, Sacramento
Sharon Rushford, Santa Clara
George B. Schwartzman, San Diego
Richard J. Simmons, Los Angeles
B.E. Smith, Trinity
Mathilda Karel Spak
Elizabeth Swaney, Alameda
Patricia Tilley, Sacramento
Brian Tracy, San Diego
Nathan Whitecloud Walton, San Diego

LIBERTARIAN
John J. Hickey, San Mateo
Ned Fenton Roscoe, Napa

PEACE AND FREEDOM
C.T. Weber, Sacramento

Source: AP survey of county registrar offices

[Diddle E. Squat]

[Samwise]

"He's going to have to go man-to-man with Gray Davis."

ROTFLMAO

[Samwise]

Feinstein has the Democratic abilty to speak from both sides of her mouth. This morning (after noting that Claifornia had a Democratic House, Senate, and Governor) she stated that the way to break the government gridlock was to not vote for a Republican governor.

Say what?!

[EGPWS]

"I think the governor has a good opportunity to defeat this recall," said Feinstein. "My view is that this recall should be defeated. It's bad for California."

Desparate words by a desparate person in power! What's done is done AND it was done by "Gray-out"!

[Grampa Dave]

YOU CALIFORNIA PEASANTS AND PEONS WILL CRAWL TO THE POLLS TO VOTE TO KEEP HERR DAVIS AS YOUR GLORIOUS FASCIST LEADER. OR I WILL SHOOT YOUR A$$ES OFF!

[TC Rider]

gobble, gobble, turkey wattle

[meenie]

It's bad for California no matter which way the recall goes. People are leaving in droves and taking their tax base with them. Environmentalism and excessive social programs to support the illegal population have bankrupted the state.

[EGPWS]

Environmentalism and excessive social programs to support the illegal population have bankrupted the state.

The most appropriate statement as of yet on this thread!

I once thought that California has a "no deficit policy" in their written laws. Maybe I'm wrong.

[At _War_With_Liberals]