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To: justanotherfreeper
"Why are the homosexuals so obsessed with taking over churches?"

It's quite simple really.....so that the transition of America to the new Sodom will be complete. The Gospel is the only thing standing in the way of the rise of socialist totalitarianism on every front. Satan is about making God the enemy. He is having a pretty easy time of it in the secular world due to his devoted army of enablers, the liberals/socialists/democRATs, but he is having to work a little harder to make God the enemy of the church.

You can be assured he has gained a lot of ground with this decision though. There are a lot of weak-minded people who depend on the church to tell them what to believe instead of seeking God in the scriptures for thenselves. Many of them will be lulled into believing that God must think it's okay if the church says so. There are others who will leave the church altogether, not just the Episcopal, but any church, because, like children, their faith is not yet strong enough to cope with an inconsistency of this magnitude. There will be a schism in the church itself, so there will be few "real" Christians left to call the church to repentance. And there will many "evangelized" into the church in its "new" form, who, being naive and not trained in the scriptures, will begin their "Christian" life on false premises.

Robinson himself said he refuses to accept the burden of responsibility for any split in the church which results from his confirmation as bishop. I suspect though, that not only will God hold him, as well as the facilitating church leaders, responsible for a split in the church, but for these others resulting issues as well.

"He said to His disciples, "It is inevitable that stumbling blocks come, but woe to him through whom they come! (Luke 17:1)

43 posted on 08/08/2003 8:11:35 AM PDT by sweetliberty ("Having the right to do a thing is not at all the same thing as being right in doing it.")
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To: sweetliberty; justanotherfreeper
"Why are the homosexuals so obsessed with taking over churches?"

"It's quite simple really.....so that the transition of America to the new Sodom will be complete."


The homosexual community's infiltration of the church, in order to undermine and destroy its authority, has been part of a well planned and well funded campaign that has been going on for years.


An excerpt from: The Overhauling of Straight America:

"While public opinion is one primary source of mainstream values, religious authority is the other. When conservative churches condemn gays, there are only two things we can do to confound the homophobia of true believers. First, we can use talk to muddy the moral waters. This means publicizing support for gays by more moderate churches, raising theological objections of our own about conservative interpretations of biblical teachings, and exposing hatred and inconsistency. Second, we can undermine the moral authority of homophobic churches by portraying them as antiquated backwaters, badly out of step with the times and with the latest findings of psychology. Against the mighty pull of institutional Religion one must set the mightier draw of Science and Public Opinion (the shield and word of that accursed “secular humanism”). Such an unholy alliance has worked well against churches before, on such topics as divorce and abortion. With enough open talk about the prevalence and acceptability of homosexuality, that alliance can work again here..."


The homosexual community's focus will now shift to the destruction of marriage.


An excerpt from: In Their Own Words: The Homosexual Agenda:

"Homosexual activist Michelangelo Signorile, who writes periodically for The New York Times, summarizes the agenda in OUT magazine:

...to fight for same-sex marriage and its benefits and then, once granted, redefine the institution of marriage completely, to demand the right to marry not as a way of adhering to society's moral codes, but rather to debunk a myth and radically alter an archaic institution... The most subversive action lesbian and gay men can undertake --and one that would perhaps benefit all of society--is to transform the notion of family entirely." "Its the final tool with which to dismantle all sodomy statues, get education about homosexuality and AIDS into the public schools and in short to usher in a sea change in how society views and treats us."



An excerpt from: Homosexual Priests: A Time for Truth:

"The homosexual movement has a history of trying to claw its way into places its agenda doesn’t belong, not for the betterment of mankind, but simply to legitimize and normalize perverse behavior. This is apparent in the all-too-common need of homosexuals to declare their sexuality rather than simply do the job they sign on to do.

This is extremely detrimental - first, it creates conflict with others as most believe homosexuality to be wrong, and it shows that the full efforts of the employed homosexual are not going towards performing the task at hand but largely to declaring their lifestyle. When it comes to serious concerns such as the Church, schools, and the Boy Scouts that involve our children, we can’t take the risk of giving them this power to destroy the values we as parents try to instill, nor can we put our country’s welfare at stake by turning these pivotal foundational institutions and our military into homosexual social experiments.

The homosexual movement is marked by two major tendencies: the tendency to continually infiltrate all good aspects of society; and once they have achieved that, the tendency to destroy this good. Public education, the Boy Scouts, the military, and now the Catholic Church have been targeted, and all have been hurt by the effects of homosexuality. The media and the Church must break its silence towards this enemy. If they do not, the people themselves must rise up and expose it..."


66 posted on 08/08/2003 9:19:52 AM PDT by EdReform (... www.choice4truth.com ...)
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To: sweetliberty
there will be few "real" Christians left

Many will be called, but few will be invited to the marriage of the lamb.

"But...but....Lord! Did we (homosexuals?) not cast out demons in your name?
"Away from me. I don't know you."
(Close enough?)

79 posted on 08/08/2003 9:45:27 AM PDT by concerned about politics ("He who controls communications rules the world." - Adolf Hitler)
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To: sweetliberty; justanotherfreeper; Miss Marple
"Why are the homosexuals so obsessed with taking over churches?"


Miss Marple has pointed out that there is an economic bottom line involved here too. As I understand it, she has pointed out that the Episcopals own a LOT of prime real estate, art, endowments, and so forth. The ones who want to leave because of principles will have to leave behind the treasure that their families for generations have been investing into the churches.
152 posted on 08/08/2003 2:04:00 PM PDT by TEXOKIE
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