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man arrest for detaining illegal immigrants
Yuma Sun ^ | LOUIE VILLALOBOS, Staff Writer

Posted on 08/07/2003 8:27:02 PM PDT by AZ GRAMMY

Second arrest made in immigrant incident

BY LOUIE VILLALOBOS, Staff Writer Aug 7, 2003

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Yuma County sheriff's deputies have arrested a second man in connection with the alleged unlawful detention of six illegal immigrants on July 31 in Gadsden.

Alexander David Dumas, 26, was arrested Tuesday evening after driving to Yuma from his home in Big Bear Lake, Calif., for an interview, said sheriff's spokesman Lt. Eben Bratcher.

Dumas was charged with six counts of aggravated assault and five counts of unlawful imprisonment following the early morning July 31 incident where deputies said he and Matthew Paul Hoffman, arrested on the same charges on Monday, detained a group of six illegal immigrants that had just entered the United States through the Colorado River.

A third man, Martin Hoffman Jr., was with the two suspects but won't be charged because he was not armed and did not take part in the handcuffing of the illegal immigrants, Bratcher said.

Bratcher said the department will continue to investigate the case and warned citizens against taking the law into their own hands.

He said anyone who sees a group of suspected illegal immigrants should call the Border Patrol, and not take it upon themselves to apprehend the group by using guns and handcuffs. Asking a group to stay put while making a phone call is permitted and would constitute a citizen's arrest, he said.

"When you have someone holding someone against their will with the use or the threat of the use of force, you've crossed the line between a citizen's arrest and unlawful detention," he said. "There was no justification for the use of force."

Deputies said the two men handcuffed five members of the group, which included three children and two women, and held them at gunpoint until U.S. Border Patrol agents arrived.

Agents have said they were dispatched to the scene when a surveillance camera operator noticed the incident unfolding. The agents called the sheriff's department, who then identified and interviewed all three men before letting them go, officials said.

Bratcher said the men are not believed to be part of a larger group, such as the citizen patrol groups that operate on private property along the Tucson border and use various forms of technology to alert Border Patrol agents to the presence of illegal immigrants in the area.

Also being charged with five counts of endangerment is a 16-year-old Mexican national who Bratcher said was paid $600 to bring the illegal immigrants into the United States. Bratcher also said the illegal immigrants were planning to meet with a taxi cab in Gadsden and were to be taken to a unidentified Yuma hotel, according to interviews done of the illegal immigrants by detectives.

William Robbins, Border Patrol spokesman, said the six illegal immigrants were in the agency's custody as of Wednesday morning but couldn't be interviewed.

Hugo Oliva, Mexican consul in Yuma, said the group was in good condition following the incident and that his office is encouraged by the sheriff's department's efforts regarding this case.

"This is a very disturbing thing to happen here," Oliva said. "We can't have people with guns do the job of law enforcement agencies."

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TOPICS: Breaking News; Crime/Corruption; Foreign Affairs; Government; US: Arizona
KEYWORDS: citizensarrest; crime; illegalimmigrants
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To: Centurion2000
If they see a speeder on the highway, do they draw guns upon them, too? How about someone who parks in a handicapped parking stall without a placard? Why, they ought to be handcuffed and have a gun shoved in their faces, too! (sheesh)
41 posted on 08/07/2003 9:05:45 PM PDT by Cultural Jihad
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To: Cultural Jihad
Is a misdemeanor really all you are charged with for crossing the border illegally?
42 posted on 08/07/2003 9:08:13 PM PDT by KEVLAR
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To: Joe Hadenuf
Tell President Bush to get off his butt and protect our borders and sovereignty.

The U.N said No

43 posted on 08/07/2003 9:09:01 PM PDT by comnet
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To: KEVLAR
In the vast majority of cases, yes. The offenders are not even given trials, they are just driven across whichever border they crossed and deported. Only repeat offenders are charged with a felony.
44 posted on 08/07/2003 9:11:01 PM PDT by Cultural Jihad
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To: Nathaniel Fischer
Were these women and children carrying drugs? If so, then charge them with smuggling. If not, then send them back.
46 posted on 08/07/2003 9:12:42 PM PDT by Cultural Jihad
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To: Cultural Jihad
Vigilantism erodes justice.

What would you propose instead of citizens' arrest in this situation? You're quick to criticize but you're not offering any suggestions as to how we can solve this problem. Or do you think we should have open borders? I see the border militias as a form of civil disobedience. It comes with a price, but the accused are putting their freedom and safety on the line to get our attention. They are already starting to pay for it. But they are acting in the common interest and apparently with deeply held convictions. How can we obviate the need for their protest?

47 posted on 08/07/2003 9:13:31 PM PDT by risk
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To: Joe Hadenuf; Tancredo Fan; All
Your perserverance has paid off.

Lars Larson, Hannity, Scarborough and Savage are now covering the illegals.

Now we have a scarey situation in Cali.

If Davis resigns to stop the recall we will have Bustamante to finish turning the state into Mexifornia.

Is Bustamante a La Raza supporter. I know he is a LULAC supporter. Which is almost as bad. One of their goals is that illegal hispanics should be allowed to work airport security. Youch.
48 posted on 08/07/2003 9:13:49 PM PDT by oceanperch (Yikes I was stung by a Hildebee.)
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To: Cultural Jihad
Remember that cuban kid in Florida? The one with the mp5 in his face? That gunman had a badge. What do you think of that?
49 posted on 08/07/2003 9:14:27 PM PDT by eldoradude (Save endangered feces - ban Ex-lax!)
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To: Cultural Jihad
>>"One of your people did something terrible to one of our people, and therefore you are all guilty"

Glad we agree on that! ;0
50 posted on 08/07/2003 9:14:32 PM PDT by Dr. Marten (Liberty means responsibility. That is why most men dread it)
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To: Cultural Jihad
If they see a speeder on the highway, do they draw guns upon them, too?

Nope, but then that's not a felony. Invading our country illegally should be a capital crime.

51 posted on 08/07/2003 9:15:01 PM PDT by Centurion2000 (We are crushing our enemies, seeing him driven before us and hearing the lamentations of the liberal)
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To: Cultural Jihad
Were these women and children carrying bla bla, yak yak.

Women and children oh my, Women and children oh my, Women and children oh my, Women and children oh my.......

Get your carcass down there and go protect them women and children Cultural clown.

52 posted on 08/07/2003 9:16:13 PM PDT by Joe Hadenuf (RECALL DAVIS, position his smoking chair over a trapdoor, a memo for the next governor.)
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To: risk

Since you asked, I am in favor of instituting a bracero-type program again to bring in those who choose to work in North America. Once the work is completed the guest workers are sent home.

53 posted on 08/07/2003 9:16:53 PM PDT by Cultural Jihad
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To: oceanperch
Cruz "El Cerdo Loco" Bustamante, MEChA vermin and anti-American louse, is about as bad as they get. To wit....


Cruz Bustamante
Mechista and
Reconquista

The Making of Bustamante
After Washington, Bustamante attended Fresno State University, where he served in the student senate and began dabbling in community politics, learning about partisan politics first-hand. "I wasn't the most radical Mechista [M.E.Ch.A, which stands for Movimiento Estudiantil de Aztlan, is a Chicano student organization known for its ethnocentric views]. At the same time, there were a lot Vietnam veteranos attending school. They were like big brothers, and they taught me a lot."


....Martha and the Latino caucus responded with a press conference to offer a moderate plan to stem immigration. But it ended in chaos when Cruz Bustamante, a farm-country Fresno Democrat, said, "We could not conduct business without the immigrant."
    Dumbfounded reporters asked if he supported illegal immigration. "My district requires it," he answered.
    Bustamante restricted future press conferences to the Spanish language media.

See: MotherJones ND93: Can we all get along?
(Cruz Bustamante is the Lt. Governor of California. On August 7, 2003, the Mechista liar announced he would be running for governor in the Gray Davis recall election on October 7... something he previously vowed not to do.) 


54 posted on 08/07/2003 9:17:19 PM PDT by Tancredo Fan (Stop the invasion. Put the military on the borders, round up illegals, and tell Fox to shove off.)
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To: Centurion2000

No, we are a Christian nation. We do not shoot unarmed economic refugees because we dislike how our liberal politicians cater and pander to those who need their labor.

56 posted on 08/07/2003 9:19:02 PM PDT by Cultural Jihad
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To: oceanperch
If Davis resigns to stop the recall...

Constitutionally impossible. The recall is on and Arnold will win.

57 posted on 08/07/2003 9:19:29 PM PDT by PRND21
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To: Nathaniel Fischer
Should we just stop you since you might be carrying dynamite? (sheesh)
58 posted on 08/07/2003 9:19:49 PM PDT by Cultural Jihad
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To: Nathaniel Fischer
You never know if they have drugs just by looking at them.

Can you tell an illegal by looking at them?

59 posted on 08/07/2003 9:21:24 PM PDT by PRND21
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To: Cultural Jihad
Shoving a gun in the faces of women and children is not an assault?

These are the very people who, when they make it to Phoenix, tend to shove guns in our faces. Let's hear from you again when one of them jacks your car.

60 posted on 08/07/2003 9:21:57 PM PDT by BlazingArizona
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