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man arrest for detaining illegal immigrants
Yuma Sun ^ | LOUIE VILLALOBOS, Staff Writer

Posted on 08/07/2003 8:27:02 PM PDT by AZ GRAMMY

Second arrest made in immigrant incident

BY LOUIE VILLALOBOS, Staff Writer Aug 7, 2003

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Yuma County sheriff's deputies have arrested a second man in connection with the alleged unlawful detention of six illegal immigrants on July 31 in Gadsden.

Alexander David Dumas, 26, was arrested Tuesday evening after driving to Yuma from his home in Big Bear Lake, Calif., for an interview, said sheriff's spokesman Lt. Eben Bratcher.

Dumas was charged with six counts of aggravated assault and five counts of unlawful imprisonment following the early morning July 31 incident where deputies said he and Matthew Paul Hoffman, arrested on the same charges on Monday, detained a group of six illegal immigrants that had just entered the United States through the Colorado River.

A third man, Martin Hoffman Jr., was with the two suspects but won't be charged because he was not armed and did not take part in the handcuffing of the illegal immigrants, Bratcher said.

Bratcher said the department will continue to investigate the case and warned citizens against taking the law into their own hands.

He said anyone who sees a group of suspected illegal immigrants should call the Border Patrol, and not take it upon themselves to apprehend the group by using guns and handcuffs. Asking a group to stay put while making a phone call is permitted and would constitute a citizen's arrest, he said.

"When you have someone holding someone against their will with the use or the threat of the use of force, you've crossed the line between a citizen's arrest and unlawful detention," he said. "There was no justification for the use of force."

Deputies said the two men handcuffed five members of the group, which included three children and two women, and held them at gunpoint until U.S. Border Patrol agents arrived.

Agents have said they were dispatched to the scene when a surveillance camera operator noticed the incident unfolding. The agents called the sheriff's department, who then identified and interviewed all three men before letting them go, officials said.

Bratcher said the men are not believed to be part of a larger group, such as the citizen patrol groups that operate on private property along the Tucson border and use various forms of technology to alert Border Patrol agents to the presence of illegal immigrants in the area.

Also being charged with five counts of endangerment is a 16-year-old Mexican national who Bratcher said was paid $600 to bring the illegal immigrants into the United States. Bratcher also said the illegal immigrants were planning to meet with a taxi cab in Gadsden and were to be taken to a unidentified Yuma hotel, according to interviews done of the illegal immigrants by detectives.

William Robbins, Border Patrol spokesman, said the six illegal immigrants were in the agency's custody as of Wednesday morning but couldn't be interviewed.

Hugo Oliva, Mexican consul in Yuma, said the group was in good condition following the incident and that his office is encouraged by the sheriff's department's efforts regarding this case.

"This is a very disturbing thing to happen here," Oliva said. "We can't have people with guns do the job of law enforcement agencies."

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TOPICS: Breaking News; Crime/Corruption; Foreign Affairs; Government; US: Arizona
KEYWORDS: citizensarrest; crime; illegalimmigrants
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To: eldoradude; martin_fierro
bttt
121 posted on 08/07/2003 9:58:24 PM PDT by risk
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To: DoughtyOne

Since we decided to personalize the discussion, are you a member of the American National Socialist Libertarian Greens Party? A Klu Klux Klan? A member of an illegal militia? A Christian-Identity?

122 posted on 08/07/2003 9:58:46 PM PDT by Cultural Jihad
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To: Tancredo Fan
Thank you.
123 posted on 08/07/2003 9:59:22 PM PDT by DoughtyOne ("He's baaaaack!" Now is he on our side or the side of the (political bigger is better) machines.)
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To: waRNmother.armyboots

I wasn't aware that they had to be registered with you.

124 posted on 08/07/2003 10:00:29 PM PDT by Cultural Jihad
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To: DoughtyOne
Far and wide outside of FR...from Alaska to New York. It's an awesome encapsulation of the way many of us feel about this issue. Kudos and thanks!
125 posted on 08/07/2003 10:01:43 PM PDT by eldoradude (Save endangered feces - ban Ex-lax!)
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To: Cultural Jihad
No, but your smart ass posts indicate that you have little understanding of firearms.
126 posted on 08/07/2003 10:02:34 PM PDT by waRNmother.armyboots
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To: Tancredo Fan
More felonious Jr. League Rambos.
Hypocritical bunch, Tancredo included.
127 posted on 08/07/2003 10:02:45 PM PDT by PRND21
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To: Tancredo Fan
I guess my negative feeling are getting in the way.

I see traditional values getting perverted.

I am just disgusted. Between the Homosexual agenda, Churches going Godless and the swarm of illegals not being addressed pronto.
128 posted on 08/07/2003 10:03:03 PM PDT by oceanperch (Hasta La Vista America!)
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To: waRNmother.armyboots
No, but your smart ass posts indicate that you have little understanding of firearms.

Smart? Yes. Ass? You.

129 posted on 08/07/2003 10:04:42 PM PDT by PRND21
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To: Cultural Jihad
To: DoughtyOne

Are you a coyote, a profiteer on this mess or a member of La Raza, Hermandad Nacional or some other advocacy group?

Since we decided to personalize the discussion, are you a member of the American National Socialist Libertarian Greens Party? A Klu Klux Klan? A member of an illegal militia? A Christian-Identity?

122 posted on 08/07/2003 9:58 PM PDT by Cultural Jihad
 

I am a Christian and don't know of any illegal militias.  Please name one illegal militia.  I'm presently a Reform Party member.  I'm also a participant on this forum, participate in it's activites and help out with the FRN.  Those are the only organizations I'm affiliated with.  Now would you care to address the issue I asked you about?

Which side of the cultural holy war are you on? If you're on the illegal alien side, then you are facilitating illegality through the advocacy of illegal activity.  If you're advocating illegal activity, you do not belong on this forum.
 
 

130 posted on 08/07/2003 10:05:10 PM PDT by DoughtyOne ("He's baaaaack!" Now is he on our side or the side of the (political bigger is better) machines.)
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To: Cultural Jihad
DoughtyOne is a well respected American Patriot who loves our country. From what you post, you sound like one of those Libertarians, who eschew the use of violence for anything, even self-defense.
131 posted on 08/07/2003 10:06:02 PM PDT by eldoradude (Save endangered feces - ban Ex-lax!)
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To: eldoradude
I'll freepmail the follow-up which will be much more extensive. I love it when people spread the word.
132 posted on 08/07/2003 10:07:38 PM PDT by DoughtyOne ("He's baaaaack!" Now is he on our side or the side of the (political bigger is better) machines.)
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To: DoughtyOne

In no way do I advocate that people shove guns into the faces of women and children.

133 posted on 08/07/2003 10:07:45 PM PDT by Cultural Jihad
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To: DoughtyOne
Now would you care to address the issue I asked you about?

He did. You were wrong.
Quit sniping because you missed one. After all, what does a Reformer have to be bitter about? ;)

134 posted on 08/07/2003 10:09:34 PM PDT by PRND21
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To: DoughtyOne
In no way do I advocate that people shove guns into the faces of women and children.

Boy, that Killchurl Geehodd is a profound thinker. I don't know anybody who advocates that...LOL ;^)

135 posted on 08/07/2003 10:11:57 PM PDT by eldoradude (Save endangered feces - ban Ex-lax!)
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To: Cultural Jihad
Nobody here does. Now, you point out where guns were shoved in anyone's faces. You're a dishonest poster. I have asked you why you post under the name of Cultural Jihad. You won't respond.

The citizens of the United States have a right to their culture. You do not have a right to advocate a war on that culture from this platform.

Now, for the last time, link me to a thread on this forum where you have spoken out against illegal immigration.
136 posted on 08/07/2003 10:12:03 PM PDT by DoughtyOne ("He's baaaaack!" Now is he on our side or the side of the (political bigger is better) machines.)
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To: PRND21
That is what they are CHARGED with. Does not mean they are guilty.
137 posted on 08/07/2003 10:12:13 PM PDT by KEVLAR
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To: oceanperch

Taking a detached view (which is generally never recommended when viewing one's own society), the land belongs to those who will follow the will of God.

138 posted on 08/07/2003 10:14:38 PM PDT by Cultural Jihad
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To: Cultural Jihad; Chad Fairbanks
What would you propose ...

Since you asked, I am in favor of instituting a bracero-type program again to bring in those who choose to work in North America. Once the work is completed the guest workers are sent home.

There is no nation on the face of the earth named "North America." North America is a continent. In fact, you couldn't "bring in" Mexicans to North America; Mexico is already in North America. Your multicultural slip, in referring to "North America," rather than America, betrays your contempt for American sovereignty.

139 posted on 08/07/2003 10:15:07 PM PDT by mrustow (no tag)
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To: KEVLAR
Like Kobe?
140 posted on 08/07/2003 10:15:28 PM PDT by PRND21
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