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To: Long Cut
Speaking of the AR-18, and considering your comments the other day regarding a civilian XM-8 likely being similar to that "G-36" you posted that a private company developed out of the SL-8, how hard do you think it'd be to fit out an AR-180B from Armalite to resemble an XM-8?

Again, the internals are similar, though the current semiauto AR-180b uses an AR-15 type configuration of a stampred upper receiver with gas piston-type action, plus a polymer lower receiver and trigger mechanism housing. Accordingly an AR180b, while a great little carbine in its own right [I've had examples of the earlier AR-180 model with folding stock as produced by both Great Britain's Sterling Arms and the Japanese Howa machinery company] would be a little more complicated starting place for a XM-8 repro...hmmm, XM-8, SL-8...Almost as if they've had this idea from the get-go.... And the current AR180b is also arranged to use M16 magazines. Accordingle, it realy looks like the SL-8 is the better place to begin.


824 posted on 04/18/2004 1:25:19 PM PDT by archy (The darkness will come. It will find you,and it will scare you like you've never been scared before.)
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To: archy
I'd be very surprised if SL-8 magazines weren't interchangeable with those of the XM-8.

My only complaint with the SL-8 (and I'm sure many other civilian shooters shared this gripe) is its butt-ugly stock with that "butthole" pistol grip. If you're asking a buyer to pay out $1500 for a rifle based on a military design, you simply have to do better than that, IMHO. The SL-8's failure on the marketplace was undoubtedly aided by this.

It could have been issued with a proper pistol grip, too. They only would have lost the opportunity to sell it in California and New York, which probably wouldn't amount to all that many sales, anyway, as dedicated buyers in those states have a way of finding what they want elsewhere.

825 posted on 04/18/2004 1:38:53 PM PDT by Long Cut ("Fightin's commenced, Ike, now get to fightin' or get outta the way!"...Wyatt Earp, in Tombstone)
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To: archy
BTW, could you repost that site to this thread with the info for the SL-8 to G-36 conversion to this thread? It was quite informative, to say nothing of interesting to see ingenuity like that at work.

I often wondered why manufacturers of semiautos left the barrels "slick" after the ban, when a simple lathe job would have yielded a "muzzle device" which had at least the proper "look" to it.

To me at least, a semiauto lookalike just plain looks strange and incomplete without a muzzle device of some kind.

Also, it demonstrates the utter futility of the Ban, when industrious, independant, and ingenious Americans go to work on the problem.

826 posted on 04/18/2004 1:44:26 PM PDT by Long Cut ("Fightin's commenced, Ike, now get to fightin' or get outta the way!"...Wyatt Earp, in Tombstone)
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