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To: Travis McGee
Thanks much, and I try to do the same in my areas of relative expertise, such as entering and exiting countries without benefit of offical permission or knowledge.

I may have to have a chat with you about some possibilities in that regard one of these days. But it's a conversation better saved for face-to-face discussion, I believe.

602 posted on 02/17/2004 12:21:02 AM PST by archy (Concrete shoes, cyanide, TNT! Done dirt cheap! Neckties, contracts, high voltage...Done dirt cheap!)
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To: archy; Travis McGee; Jeff Head; freedom44
I'm getting interested in this thread from an anthropological perspective. Who are we? Why do we shoot? How did we learn about shooting? What will others think about this thread? Who's reading it and where are they in the world? That sort of thing. What is going to be the long-term impact of "campfire" weapons chatter on a global scale? I know the U.N. hates it. Tyrants are probably intrigued. They're also probably taking notes. Information has to be shared to stay alive, so I think no matter what the short-term effects are, the long-term results will be good. Also, I think these ideas are catching. I'd like to think some band of Iranian students is poring over this material from an Internet cafe outside of Tehran with excitement building one post at a time...
603 posted on 02/17/2004 4:44:11 AM PST by risk (Democracy. Whiskey. And sexy!)
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To: archy; All
No doubt!

;^)

BTW, have you all seen this?

This is from the current Cooper's Commentaries, V-12 #2:

"Do any of you marksmen think it possible for a man to place 20 shots in a 20-inch circle in 20 seconds at a 1,000 yards? I posed this question to the range masters down at Camp Pendleton many years ago and was told that such a thing was not possible. During much of my life a four-minute mile was deemed to be impossible, to say nothing of motoring around on the surface of the moon.

"Obviously this rifle challenge is very, very hard. I have tried it twice myself and conclude that while the task is not impossible, it is nearly so.

"Therefore, I am undertaking the proposal of a perpetual prize in the form of a grand gold cup or bowl to be awarded to anyone who can bring off this stuntproperly supervised, of course. Administration of the effort will be complicated, but that we can handle. I hope to avoid commercialization, but where there is a will there is a wayand money in sufficient quantities can provide the will."

~~~Col. Jeff Cooper

613 posted on 02/17/2004 7:26:07 AM PST by Travis McGee (----- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com -----)
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