Why Frist and all won't go 24/7 (Vanity)

vanity | 8/4/03 | votelife

[votelife]

Freepers, First I apologize in advance for the vanity. I have been very active in the last several months trying to push Estrada's nomination. Pryor recently as he's from my state. On thread after thread I see people complaining at the fact that Frist/Bush won't make the Senate go 24/7. Let me explain this is probably not the best course of action to take right now.

1. The mainstream media- remember how Clinton was able to frame the govt shutdown as the Repubs fault? How easy do you think ABCBSCNNMSNBC will be able to say, right wing republicans block prescription drugs to put an arch-conservative on a court of appeals. I know this is unfair, but who said the NY Times is fair.

2. To go 24/7 from what I've read is MUCH harder on the Repubs than the Dems. Basically, only one Dem would have to be there (they could rotate) while all the Repubs or 50 I guess would have to be there. I'm not exactly sure on the particulars of this, perhaps other Freepers could back me up, but generally, this is tougher on the Repubs than the Dems.

3. It's August, nobody is paying attention. Going 24/7 now might get us judges, it might not. Tough to say how it would play out. Do it August of next year, or OCTOBER of next year, and Bush can tie it into his obstruction case very well.

4. While Bush has been getting beat (FOR NOW) in the Senate, he keeps the pressure on the Dems. After the Estrada filibuster was going, Bush nominated Pryor, an obvious deference to the conservative movement. Bush also nominated Pickering again, and Owen again. These are not the moves of someone who is rethinking the conservative judge strategy. Also, he just nominated Janice Brown, a black conservative who is a California Supreme Court Justice.

5. So basically based on number 4, I think Bush and Rove, are just letting the Dems destroy their party. The Dems will be on record filibustering a qualified Hispanic, a woman, a Catholic, a Baptist, a Black Woman, an Arab. Who knows who else, but this will be a VERY valuable campaign issue.

6. How do you think this obstruction plays in SC, NC, FL, GA, Pennslyvania (key primary between liberal Specter and conservative Toomey), ND, SD, etc? I can tell you that Tom Daschle won't like these obstruction ads running in his state! And how do you think the obstruction of Estrada will play among Hispanics right before the '04 election?

I know in advance some Freepers may accuse me of being a Bush-bot. I could care less. Bush has an excellent job on the pro-life cause. Ramming through some appeals court judges and somewhat removing the issue in '04 may actually HINDER Bush being able to get a conservative confirmed to the Court in the future. Pro life is starting to become more and more of a winning issue for the Repubs. As Bush likes to say, hearts are being changed. Freepers, be patient! I want these judges confirmed as much as the next Freeper, but I think we need to take a longer view of this problem. The Dems are getting more and more extreme, and out of touch with America. '04 is looking good (Hollings announced retirement today, also helping a future GOP Senate).

Now, if a Supreme Court justice retires, than this analysis goes out the window, and it would be time to go nuclear.

So for the Freepers who are upset at Frist, the best way to get these judges confirmed is to help defeat Democrat Senators (and defeat Arlen Specter)!

Comments appreciated, though I won't pay attention to them if they are not well reasoned.

[White Eagle]

All the minority candidates should be brought up during the 24/7 filibuster. Let's get some footage of Democrats criticizing the black guy, the black woman, the Asian, the Hispanic, etc. for use during the campaign. The truth is not negative campaigning.

The Republicans are in control of the Senate. It's long past time for them to act like it. The tyranny of the political minority party is unacceptable.

[votelife]

I wrote this last year; but I think the time to go 24/7 is in September or October, and do exactly what you say. Let it build slowly through the summer first. Let Kerry and Hillary make some tough votes, than go nuclear.

[Republican Wildcat]

I don't understand why so many Freepers can't understand the simple fact that the Dems are the ones filabustering, not the Republicans! Good grief. This 24/7 thing is from the past. The cloture vote is the only thing that they need to filabuster. No one can force any Democrat to hold the floor and filabuster in that manner.

[Republican Wildcat]

Another problem is that they are confirming district judges, not appeals judges. Therefore, the crisis is getting even worse as activity at the district level is on the increase but there are still fewer appellate judges.

[votelife]

I fully understand the fact that Frist's hands are tied, it is all the Dems fault. Plus there are some squeemish rino senators too. The goal for conservatives should be to force high profile votes on nominees, and make Kerry defend the obstruction. Than use that in the election.

You are right, the Dems say they are confirming so many, but that is mainly to the district courts, not the appeals.

[votelife]

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