White-Collar Exodus

ABC News ^ | July 29, 2003 | Betsy Stark

[Dane]

CHILE FAST TRACK ACT OF 2001 Statement of Senator Chris Dodd

March 21, 2001

"Mr. President, I rise today to reintroduce legislation I authored last year to enable the President to admit Chile into NAFTA. Nearly six years ago, a bipartisan majority of this body ratified the North American Free Trade Agreement. Since then the promises of new jobs, increased exports, lower tariffs and a cleaner environment have all been realized. In other words, Mr. President, NAFTA has succeeded despite the predictions of some that America could not compete in today's global economy

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It is so funny watching you all get pandered to, and you all licking up like kitty at a bowl of milk.

[AndyJackson]

Laz doesn't want to refute reply #432.

I hope not. If there is a coherent thought in it, it has certainly escaped me.

[sarcasm]

Because the snippet mentioned Johnson not Dodd, moron.

[AndyJackson]

like any other time, people must seek out new skills.

Throw the down-and-outers here a scrap and name a couple.

[Lazamataz]

In fact, no attention for you at all.

[mamelukesabre]

What keeps the cusomers from putting some items in grocery bags without ringing them up? It seems to me that people would start cheating and, oh say, not ring up about every third item in their shopping cart.

[AndyJackson]

It is so funny watching you all get pandered to, and you all licking up like kitty at a bowl of milk.

Are you smoking something? This giggle fit of yours seems like great fun, but could you please clue those of us who are not toked up on what you are talking about.

[Lazamataz]

I hope not. If there is a coherent thought in it, it has certainly escaped me.

LOL! I've come to the conclusion he's a negative attention vampire.

[Dane]

What keeps the cusomers from putting some items in grocery bags without ringing them up? It seems to me that people would start cheating and, oh say, not ring up about every third item in their shopping cart

When you scan the product, the bar code also scans the weight of the product and then you put the product into the bag which is on a scale. If you put something that hasn't been scanned, the machine alerts the one attendant at the island and also very loudly alerts you and shuts the process down, until the product is scanned.

[Concentrate]

Correct. So don't you think it is a good idea to discourage offshoring in every possible way?

Yes. Especially to countries that don't guarantee individual liberties.

No set or subset of workers can compete with slave labor, as with what we are now competing with in China. One must draw the line somewhere.

However, India is a democracy. How can we compete with them? Is their IT industry gvernment-subsidized? If so, we have a clear case for tariffs on their services, just as we tax services here.

[AndyJackson]

Hobbit hole threads are 12,000 strong and they still can talk.

I am caughing and sputtering so much Mrs. Jackson is calling the ambulance for me. Agamemnon is right. You are a bitter and dried up old soul.

[mamelukesabre]

Yes they are. I see lots of guys doing very well these days painting houses, putting up siding, doing roofs, and other types of remodelling. My neighbor does this sort of thing and he just bought a brand new cadilac. He's self employed and doesn't have more than 2 guys working for him.

[MightyMouseToSaveThe Day]

I don't think this is a relevant analogy, Dane. The issue in the article is outsourcing jobs to foreigners who will settle for less pay than their American counterparts. In your example, technology--not foreigners--has seemingly supplanted the services of several cashiers. Technology is always changing the nature of work. But it's simplistic to think that those 3 displaced cashiers are now fired because of the new self-service machines. Somebody needs to program the machines, service the machines, etc. And maybe those cashiers are now free to rise in the organization to supervisor or whatever. It doesn't necessarily follow, in your example, that those cashiers are out of work. In the case of the article at hand, US workers are most DEFINITELY out of work--the nature of the work hasn't changed, but cheaper foreign workers have been found as substitutes. And that's what is inherently unfair.

[AndyJackson]

I see lots of guys doing very well these days painting houses, putting up siding, doing roofs, and other types of remodelling. My neighbor does this sort of thing and he just bought a brand new cadilac. He's self employed and doesn't have more than 2 guys working for him.

And the folks who hire him to do this do what for a living? Throw clay pots and sell them in the front lawn?

[Dane]

Are you smoking something? This giggle fit of yours seems like great fun, but could you please clue those of us who are not toked up on what you are talking about.

Nah having a giggle over Laz's giving a big kiss to his new hero Sen. Dodd(D-CT), in reply #426.

From the article, it looks like Democrats are getting ready to reject free trade in favor of fair trade. Dodd was whipping this rally into a fever.

And then posting Dodd's big kiss to free trade with reply #441 and watching Laz going ga-ga over being pandered to.

It's too funny.

[mamelukesabre]

I'll tell you what they are doing in rural new york and other rural areas in the northeast. Their houses are all mysteriously burning down and they collect the insurance money and then move far far away where there are jobs to be had.

[AndyJackson]

Does Mrs. Dane know that you have been in at the liquor again?

[Lancey Howard]

.....what will we be doing?

Getting into the rap business?
I just saw where rapper Sean "P Diddy" Combs is spending his time these days cruising around the Mediterranean aboard his 181-foot luxury yacht at a cost of $40,000 a day.

And have you seen Eminem's pad?

[Lazamataz]

Nah having a giggle over Laz's giving a big kiss to his new hero Sen. Dodd(D-CT), in reply #426.

I'll take a moment from my self-proclaimed attention denial of attention for you for a moment to note that: Dane, you like to make shit up out of whole cloth. Nothing you have written can even remotely characterize what I am trying to say. But like any high-school student, you will just misinterpret my comments because your reading comprehension is limited beyond belief. I don't blame you; I blame the schools.

But go ahead anyways. Most of the forum knows you by now.

Carry on. Good night.

[Dane]

Somebody needs to program the machines, service the machines, etc. And maybe those cashiers are now free to rise in the organization to supervisor or whatever.

Actually from what I've seen, the casheir at the island services the machine, takes hourly readings and such.

Also the person who normally services the regular cash registers also probably services the new machines.

The main point stands that effectively three casheir positions have been eliminated, since there is no need for a casheir since the machines do the work.