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To: Jim Robinson; kattracks; William Terrell; Sabertooth
What do y'all think? Is Mercuria right about this? Is Mr. Santorum putting one over on us? Have we been betrayed by the Republicans? Looks to me like this bill says any doctor that uses the so-called partial birth abortion procedure to kill a baby gets fined or goes to jail.

According to the description of a PBA from Clarence Thomas:

Stenberg v. Carhart (2000): "After dilating the cervix, the physician will grab the fetus by its feet and pull the fetal body out of the uterus into the vaginal cavity. At this stage of development, the head is the largest part of the body. . . . the head will be held inside the uterus by the woman’s cervix. While the fetus is stuck in this position, dangling partly out of the woman’s body, and just a few inches from a completed birth, the physician uses an instrument such as a pair of scissors to tear or perforate the skull. The physician will then either crush the skull or will use a vacuum to remove the brain and other intracranial contents from the fetal skull, collapse the fetus’ head, and pull the fetus from the uterus."

Now to me, that looks like as long as you can't see the navel, you can still perform a Partial Birth Abortion and it will be legal according to this:

1531 A)`(1) the term `partial-birth abortion' means an abortion in which-- `(A) the person performing the abortion deliberately and intentionally vaginally delivers a living fetus until, in the case of a head- first presentation, the entire fetal head is outside the body of the mother, or, in the case of breech presentation, any part of the fetal trunk past the navel is outside the body of the mother for the purpose of performing an overt act that the person knows will kill the partially delivered living fetus;

Tell me where I'm wrong.

86 posted on 08/05/2003 7:53:43 AM PDT by Sir Gawain
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To: Spiff
See #86
87 posted on 08/05/2003 7:54:12 AM PDT by Sir Gawain
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To: Sir Gawain
I prefer #85. LOL.
89 posted on 08/05/2003 8:00:08 AM PDT by Registered (77% of the mentally ill live in poverty, that leaves 23% doing quite well!)
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To: Sir Gawain
Show me how you can perform the killing method without yanking the alive child down into the birth canal to beyond the connection of the umbilicus. Dissemble for someone else's manipulation ... you're efforts are transparent, especially on this thread.
91 posted on 08/05/2003 8:05:46 AM PDT by MHGinTN (If you can read this, you've had life support from someone. Promote life support for others.)
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To: Sir Gawain
"Tell me where I'm wrong."

There's not enough bandwidth.

114 posted on 08/05/2003 8:48:14 AM PDT by Luis Gonzalez (Pot...kettle....black)
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To: Sir Gawain
If the baby ends up dead during a partial birth abortion then the abortionist goes to prison.
164 posted on 08/05/2003 12:14:59 PM PDT by Jim Robinson (Conservative by nature... Republican by spirit... Patriot by heart... AND... ANTI-Liberal by GOD!)
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