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A woman walks into an abortion mill intending to have a legal PBA.

After the passage of this bill, there will be no form of legal partial birth abortion.

Find me some other form of PBA that is currently in practice. If it's likely that abortionists will start performing PBAs some other way to get around this legislation, as you attest, you ought to be able to find something concrete to defend your position.

Otherwise you are creating theories out of thin air. I didn't take you for that type.

***A woman walks into an abortion mill intending to have a legal PBA.***

First of all....there would be no such thing as a LEGAL PBA. I think the question would be framed using ILLEGAL PBA.

Secondly....without cameras in the room, there is NO guarantee that the ILLEGAL PBA would not be performed. But that is true of any crime. Heck...if ALL abortions were once again made ILLEGAL, there would be no guarantee that the same scenario could not be played out in some Doctor's office. And you can just hear the outrage re: cameras (but what else would satisfy some people?).....and secondarily of 'altered' tapes if this method was used to 'catch' the criminal (Doctor) performing the crime.

Lastly.....how many were screaming about the lack of PBA legislation...and blaming Bush et. al for NOT having done anything about this issue?

After the passage of this bill, there will be no form of legal partial birth abortion.

As is currently and generally practiced, that's true (aside from "life of the mother" exceptions, which I don't buy anyway.)

Find me some other form of PBA that is currently in practice. If it's likely that abortionists will start performing PBAs some other way to get around this legislation, as you attest, you ought to be able to find something concrete to defend your position.

Otherwise you are creating theories out of thin air. I didn't take you for that type.

It's not of thin air that we understand that when things are outlawed, folks who are affected will try and find ways around the new law. My questions on this thread have been attempts to discern how determined abortionists might go about circumventing this PBA legislation.
If we accept that this legislation is an incremental step, then there are legitimate questions that need to be asked in order to determine where it might fall short, and thus, where the next incremental step might be taken.

I know that we haven't agreed on other issues in the past, but I have to let you know that your posts on this subject are awesome.

On other threads we will resume our regularly scheduled disagreements.