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To: Chief_Joe
Are you sure the language in this bill puts an end to these types of procedures?

The language in this bill most certainly will outlaw partial birth abortion.

Our Congress has never yet attempted to outlaw any other type of abortion, to my knowledge, since the Supreme Court ruled in Roe v. Wade in 1973. Up until that heinous SCOTUS ruling abortion was allowed/disallowed on a state-by-state basis.

I maintain that our right to life is God-given; it is protected from abuse by the United States Constitution, clarifying the rightful role of government; it is self-evident; codified in our Declaration of Independence, the Preamble to the Constitution, and in the Fourteenth Amendment.

No one was attempting by this bill to overturn Roe v. Wade. That can only be expected to be done by another Supreme Court body and ruling, because those '73 wankers were never impeached, as they ought to have been. Norma McCorvey, the 'Roe' of the decision, is very active in trying to have that decision overturned; her case is that the whole decision was based on lies, and no testimony was heard pertaining to the rights of the unborn victim or the safety of the mother.

As I understand it, unless we pass a brand new Constitutional Amendment protecting the life of unborn Americans, or unless Roe v. Wade is overturned by a Supreme Court that better understands our Constitution, Congress can only act to reduce the horrors of specific practices of abortion incrementally. They've been trying to do just that for years: Bill Clinton vetoed this legislation twice. We never had enough of a majority of Republicans in the Senate to override his veto.

The tide of opinion on the murder of innocents (aka abortion) has turned in America since the 1970's. This is due to experience under anytime/anywhere/for any reason abortion, to advances in science and technology which allow us to peek into the living womb and at DNA's ribbon, to advances in medicine which enable us to operate on tiny infants still in utero, and to education.

I firmly believe that once this bill is signed into law our elected Republican leadership will move even further ahead in the restoration of Constitutional rights for the unborn. 70% of Americans now know the details of and appropriately abhor partial birth abortion.

I believe that impeaching and replacing current Supreme Court Justices is rationally and Constitutionally in order. It should have been done in 1973; well over 40,000,000 human beings of American descent who were denied their Constitutional right to life would now be alive if that had been done. But it was not, and abortion on demand has scarred our nation and our people for 30 years. We know in 2003 that abortion on demand is untenable - it kills babies and harms women. We know, more specifically, that partial birth abortion is never necessary to save the life of the mother, and is a proceedure which abortionists use to suck the brains out of partially-delivered, very much alive babies.

The language in this bill most certainly will outlaw partial birth abortion. The language inserted by the Senate, reaffirming Roe v. Wade, is a Demonrat trap, and will be struck from the final version in committee, after which it will be signed by President George W. Bush. That is a very good thing.

705 posted on 08/06/2003 1:30:10 PM PDT by .30Carbine (Amen.)
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To: .30Carbine; Victoria Delsoul; MHGinTN; RMDupree; diotima; Registered; DeSoto; Prodigal Daughter; ...
The tide of opinion on the murder of innocents (aka abortion) has turned in America since the 1970's. This is due to experience under anytime/anywhere/for any reason abortion, to advances in science and technology which allow us to peek into the living womb and at DNA's ribbon, to advances in medicine which enable us to operate on tiny infants still in utero, and to education.

Inspirational post. Flagging a select few I know would not want to miss this magnificent gem at the end of the thread.

Please read #705!!!

Update on Samuel Armas, miracle baby

721 posted on 08/06/2003 5:04:12 PM PDT by William Wallace
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To: .30Carbine
No one was attempting by this bill to overturn Roe v. Wade.

As I understand it... Congress can only act to reduce the horrors of specific practices of abortion incrementally.

Ok, I'm pragmatic enough to know that something achieved is better than nothing. There's another side to me that says there may be another reason for some of confusing language in the bill. With such language, I believe those performing these types of procedures will be taking to court and have to defend themselves. Regardless of the outcome it will likely cost them a lot of money in legal fees. This most certainly will reduce the number of persons willing to perform such procedures, and it is a good example of product introduction and development for those in the legal business. LOL.

933 posted on 08/10/2003 12:20:12 AM PDT by Chief_Joe (From where the sun now sits, I will fight on -FOREVER!)
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