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To: .30Carbine; Victoria Delsoul; MHGinTN; RMDupree; diotima; Registered; DeSoto; Prodigal Daughter; ...
The tide of opinion on the murder of innocents (aka abortion) has turned in America since the 1970's. This is due to experience under anytime/anywhere/for any reason abortion, to advances in science and technology which allow us to peek into the living womb and at DNA's ribbon, to advances in medicine which enable us to operate on tiny infants still in utero, and to education.

Inspirational post. Flagging a select few I know would not want to miss this magnificent gem at the end of the thread.

Please read #705!!!

Update on Samuel Armas, miracle baby

721 posted on 08/06/2003 5:04:12 PM PDT by William Wallace
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To: William Wallace
Thanks for the Ping. That picture is amazing.....better than any argument could ever be.
726 posted on 08/06/2003 6:27:56 PM PDT by diotima (So it's sorta social, demented and sad, but social.)
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To: William Wallace; Common Tator; Southack; Jim Robinson
Thanks for the ping WW, I have been following this thread for the last 24 hours and there have been some very good points made, by a lot of people. If you haven't seen this one please read it. It says nearly everything that I would like to have said.

There are a lot of viewpoints that have been expressed here, but it can be summarized best by saying that there is no reason why, when ending a pregnancy early for the health of the mother, that the baby/fetus shouldn't be given every opportunity to live. Killing the baby for the sake of convenience is horrendous.

Further, while the PBA legislation is not as strong as many would like it to be, it was designed to pass the Supreme Court criteria for their interpretation of Constitutionality. Anything stronger would likely die in the Supreme Court and thereby serve no useful purpose. Should there be stronger legislation? Absolutely, but let's take what we can get and then ask for more. The job isn't over with this bill.

It is also important to reiterate the importance of changing the hearts and minds of the general population. I read the posts of Common Tator as often as possible, and have learned many things. He has said that if 70% of the population is for something, that both parties will rush to get in front of the parade and try to lead it. Such is the political reality of getting something accomplished. Educating the public to the stages of development in the womb is the best means of stopping abortion. When the public is convinced, then the laws will follow, not the other way around.

I have also read a most illuminating post by Southack from a couple of weeks ago. With the very slim majority in both the House and Senate, it has been necessary for President Bush, in order to garner enough votes on legislation, to molly-coddle the RINOs and DINOs in order to create a majority of votes to pass his legislation. The only way that he has been able to do that is by agreeing to sign questionable bills and spending our tax money on pork to mollify the most liberal of the votes needed. How conservative a bill is is directly proportional to the weakest vote needed to pass it, and how much pork had to be paid to get that vote.

This situation clearly speaks to the aspirations of Jim Robinson's determined efforts to add to the majority of both houses, by voting the 'rats out. Only when it is possible to easily have enough votes to pass the President's agenda is it going to be possible to tell the RINOs that no extraordinary deals will be cut to get their votes. The greater the majority on Republicans in the House and Senate, the more conservative the legislative result.

Hey, WW, thanks again for the ping, it is good to see you around again.

728 posted on 08/06/2003 8:13:01 PM PDT by DeSoto
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To: William Wallace
Hey, great post.

I was just slumming over at LostPriviledges.com, and that dumbass Mercuria still has tunnel vision.

Like the rest of the losers, she look only where Uncle Bill wants her to look, and ignores that the portion of the bill she keeps pouring over and over, is qualified by the previous passage, the one that she conveniently never posts.

I knew she was obnoxious, but I never realized just what a dumbass she was.

But hey!

Her and Todd deserve one another but good!
730 posted on 08/06/2003 9:57:14 PM PDT by Luis Gonzalez (Free evil moderator!!!)
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To: William Wallace
Thank you for the links. I've always believed that abortion is an act of pure selfishness and lack of love, especially for the most defenseless… the ones who can't cry out and ask for help.
734 posted on 08/06/2003 10:09:25 PM PDT by Victoria Delsoul
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To: William Wallace
Thank you for bumping my rant! ( :
777 posted on 08/07/2003 2:43:12 AM PDT by .30Carbine
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