[Chief_Joe]

Sec. 1531. Partial-birth abortions prohibited

`(1) the term `partial-birth abortion' means an abortion in which--
`(A) the person performing the abortion deliberately and intentionally vaginally delivers a living fetus until, in the case of a head- first presentation, the entire fetal head is outside the body of the mother, or, in the case of breech presentation, any part of the fetal trunk past the navel is outside the body of the mother for the purpose of performing an overt act that the person knows will kill the partially delivered living fetus; and...

I'm trying, but I don't understand the above definition of partial-birth abortions. I think this is why people fell betrayed by what is being called the passage of the ban. It seems that the passage of this Bill is meant to sound good to supporters, but no one will is likely to ever be convicted of violating this Bill with such a convoluted definition.

[.30Carbine]

...with such a convoluted definition.

You are wrong. The definition in the bill is THE definition of partial birth abortion as it was 'invented' and as it is performed.

[CWOJackson]

No Joe, I think you actually have it the wrong way around. This passage is being used by some disgruntled elements with no power whatsoever to effect any change to attempt to stir up discontent amongst those who are actually doing something.