Call the White House: tell President Bush his Title IX decision is wrong!

USA Wrestling ^ | 7/22/2003 | Gary Abbott

[Nonstatist]

USA Wrestling is working with the College Sports Council and other Olympic sports organizations on a campaign to flood the White House with calls "re: his Title IX decision". Athletes, coaches, parents, fans and others who support fair sports opportunities for all are asked to call the White House comment line this week at 202-456-1111.

Those with cell phones that have long distance plans are asked to spend a few of their free minutes by making a phone call to support wrestling and other Olympic sports.

Tell President Bush that you are upset with his decision concerning Title IX, and his lack of leadership and character in fixing the problems with proportionality.

On July 11, the Office of Civil Rights announced a new Clarification letter concerning Title IX enforcement in sports. Basically, the administration left the current three-part test completely unchanged, including the controversial proportionality quota.

By making no changes, the current trend of eliminating men's Olympic sports opportunities will move forward into the future. College sports opportunities for wrestling, swimming, track and field, gymnastics, baseball and other sports for men could be extinct unless there are changes made to the interpretation of the law.

COLLEGE SPORTS COUNCIL TALKING POINTS

1. You support Title IX as it was originally written.
2. Proportionality has created a quota system in college sports.
3. The three part test doesn't work because schools rely only on proportionality.
4. We will continue to see the unnecessary elimination of opportunities for men to participate in college sports.

Now is the time that those who wish to protect Olympic sports must be heard. The Bush Administration needs to know that people are watching their actions concerning Title IX and proportionality and that reform is needed.

Once you have called the White House, please ask others that you know to do the same. The goal is to make sure that President Bush knows that there is a large and active group of people who will continue to fight for the elimination of the proportionality quota.

Call the White House Comment Line at 202-456-1111 and let your voice be heard! If you don't want to call, his e-mail address is: president@whitehouse.gov

[eniapmot]

Can Title IX Do for Women In Science and Engineering What It Has Done for Women In Sports?

[joesnuffy]

How do the Japanese fund their huge ticket sports teams?
Their education system seems to produce some pretty top notch
scientists and engineers..

[CaptIsaacDavis]

DUDE! In case you missed it, this administration has: promoted a massive trade imbalance with China (to subsidize its military and communist party elites, and asked absolutely nothing in return for it), compromised to create a wage insurance program (wage subsidies for "trade displaced workers" in a program that SecDef Rumsfeld backed in 1999, when he served on a Clinton Admin trade review commission) -- as part of the Andean Trade Act, did absolutely nothing to prevent the rise of communists promising to acquire nuclear weapons in Brazil (which is nuclear armed, having abandoned their program under US pressure in 1975 with one complete weapon), actually wavered on the subject of opening up trade with Cuba, and then had the absolutely depraved indifference to send back to Cuba 12 brave Cuban political refugees after negotiating to ensure they wouldn't get the death penalty, backed Ted Kennedy's education bill, pushed for tariffs for the steel industry, backed a massive expansion of subsidies for the farm industry, supported a "Soviet-style" drug subsidy program (Rush Limbaugh's words, not mine), and even had the president promising a new socialist program for minority home ownership (the initial proposal was for a $5K outright giveaway, which was changed later to a vague tax break -- the proposal was dropped quietly and quickly after a few senators said it was outrageous), and on and on. Under the Bush Administration, the US Post Office has issued two postage stamps to glorify socialism -- one with a Stalinist terrorist (Langston Hughes), and another with Saul Alinsky operative Cesar Chavez (Bush signed a law in Texas just before running for the WH creating a state holiday in a move that made him the political ally with the only other gov. to support such a move, Comrade Davis), kept on thousands of Clintonista POLITICAL APPPOINTEES in the Federal bureaucracy (most notably in the Justice Department), and on and on and on we go.

A recent issue of the Economist carried a headline article asking the question:"Is Bush a Socialist?" There is a reason why analysts, including Rush, are also comparising Rove's strategy to a Nixonian one that is fundamentally hostile to conservative economic values and principles.

[Tribune7]

They're probably more afraid of getting their tails sued off if a girl gets hurt or if one of guys grabs her in the wrong place.

Title IX is harmful to sports, college and society in general. Colleges should be allowed to discriminate to their heart's content.

[Tolerance Sucks Rocks]

Dubya strikes again!

[EastCoast]

Geez, our Div. 1 football team funds ALL of our sports, men's and women's. But we're luckier than most.

[kevin]

Folks...the whole system is crashing around us....and this is what you want to concentrate your efforts on??

Give me a break...go save some un born kids...or protest the loss of our manufacturing to NAFTA/GaTT....or freak out over the gay movement trying to gain minority status, claiming they are no different than blacks or hispanics...but Title IX....holy smokes...get a grip on what's truly urgent...sheesh...

[kevin]

Folks...the whole system is crashing around us....and this is what you want to concentrate your efforts on??

Give me a break...go save some un born kids...or protest the loss of our manufacturing to NAFTA/GaTT....or freak out over the gay movement trying to gain minority status, claiming they are no different than blacks or hispanics...but Title IX....holy smokes...get a grip on what's truly urgent...sheesh...

[splitveer]

Title IX just plain sucks...and as for W, another promise broken...i'm really starting to believe he likes sucking up to Teddy Kennedy and other liberals more than doing what is right. Title IX is THE absolute worst thing to happen to sports...and its not just at the Univerity's...what about the small high school where their is only 1 gym, yet you have boy's basketball, boy's JV basketball, girls basketball, and girl's JV basketball all wanting the floor, all at the same time??? WHY DO YOU THINK COACHES GET OUT OF THE BUSINESS NOW????? ITS NOT WORTH IT!!! THE LIBS HAVE DONE KILLED IT

[eniapmot]

Look at #121. As the writer points out, Title IX doesn't apply only to sports. And they are ready to move into other areas.

[Atchafalaya]

It is liking watching grass grow unless your own is involved!!!!! Me bad chauvinist, me bad chauvinist, mea culpa, but there it is, I love Tiger football and baseball. I have no urge or inclination to go see women's softball, basketball, soccer, (those are the sports that a school might make a dime on). I'd pay to see a track meet. It just doesn't ring the bell. Flame away, but I yam what I yam!

[Atchafalaya]

Yeah, she won and pinned me; it was fun1

[Atchafalaya]

If your sport is even semi-self financed ok, but look at the books, these programs are bleeding money; think exsanguination!! In a real world business enviornment do you really think that most womens sports would survive as a business? I mean absoloutely no disrespect to those that work and train to compete in these sports; beleive me. Be real, how many of the general public is going to mark the calender and plan a big weekend for a softball game? Jeez!

[Athelas]

"If your sport is even semi-self financed ok, but look at the books, these programs are bleeding money; think exsanguination!! In a real world business enviornment do you really think that most womens sports would survive as a business? I mean absoloutely no disrespect to those that work and train to compete in these sports; beleive me. Be real, how many of the general public is going to mark the calender and plan a big weekend for a softball game? Jeez!"

I understand your point, but what programs would you assert actually support themselves? Swimming? Gymnastics? Weight lifting? With the exception of Football I doubt any of them do. Maybe basketball.

As I've alluded several times in this thread, I don't see this as a compelling government interest, and I also have difficulty seeing this as having anything to do with "higher education". But assuming you think it is both of those things, you have to explain why it is a "compelling government interest" and legitimate part of "higher education" for men but not for women.

And I've also said a couple of times I really don't care that much about it either way. I can live with what Bush decided. If he had decided to alter the rules that would have been fine. I can equally live with his decision not to.

Its more important IMO for him to position himself this year for re-election. There's a war on you know. A shooting war. The last thing we need is "President Dean" or president "Dominique de Kerry".

If someone lost their scholarship because their program closed I am truly sorry. If I could wave my magic wand and that would be fixed I would. But there is always the alternative I took for getting my degree. That is, get a JOB, or a student LOAN, and work for your education the old fashioned way. At one point I was working full time, pregnant, and going to school at night. Nobody payed for me to go to school because I could Golf really well. I just finished paying off my student loans last summer. Sometimes in life if you want something you have to work your behind off to get it.

Listening to people whine about this subject in the context of a shooting war while our troops are sleeping in tents in the desert and being sniped is surreal.

[Barney Gumble]

Title IX is silly. It basically says that funding for girls and boys sports programs in school has to be equal. A modification of it would reduce the ratio of money. Although I support women's sports, truth be told, boys play more sports than girls.

"Lesser" men's programs without a "girls equivalent" end up getting hurt, such as wrestling or ice hockey. Their program gets cancelled in favor of a girl's badminton team because the boys spend all of their money on their football team. Then the girls teams have a hard time recruiting enough girls for their kooky teams.

It's silly. Although the feminist movement love the idea of "equal funding" it's not practical. Though many girls do play sports its not quite at the level of interest of the boys. Therefore, the ratio of funding should be less. Otherwise money gets wasted and programs get cancelled.

[af_vet_rr]

Sorry, I fully support Title IX. Best thing to ever happen to womens' atheltics. GWB knows this because he is the father of 2 girls.

I've got daughters as well, and while I support womens' athletics, I don't support quotas and that is exactly what Title IX has become. More importantly, it comes at the expense of male athletics, when it could have been handled in another, more balanced way.

[Nonstatist]

Listening to people whine about this subject in the context of a shooting war while our troops are sleeping in tents in the desert and being sniped is surreal.

Its because Bush initiated the review of Title IX and spent mucho gov't money holding hearings, conferences, writing papers , etc. I think we know what he and his advisors think about it, yet they caved anyway because of fear of the WLC, the media, and other lobby groups, and I think thats a mistake. The ordinary woman is not going to vote against him , with a War going on, if he modified rule 3 a little bit.

College sports may be irrelevant ( I disagree), but what about Dance, theater, womyns studies and the like? Fact is, colleges will always have football, basketball, and 9 or 10 women's sports. Thats a given. I just think it would be nice to save a half dozen other mens Olympic sports being played in our colleges, too. Selfish, I know.

[Dr Warmoose]

Locally, Ball State just dropped men's indoor track, outdoor track, and cross country. Women's are still going. Thanks Title IX. Those athletes didn't really want to compete anyway.

Title IX came into existance because market forces decreed men's sports as the dominant athletics. Men are different from women in that men are more attracted to sports. Notice why the WNBA sucks in TV ratings? Perhaps anyone can explain why women's skating is successful only when the women are practically nude when on the ice? Meanwhile college Basketball and Football do far more than pay for themselves in that there are no women college sports that justify building a 100,000 seat stadium because the previous 85,000 seat stadium has always been sold out during game time. How many alumni donors bitch and scream and threaten to withold money because the women's tennis or golf team didn't win a division title?

I guess the Hate America First cabal has now signed on dykes and their apologists to help destroy the American culture. By eliminating so many male sports it is also removing any serious competition in the Olympics by future American athletes. Just another reason why not to watch the Olympics anymore. And since so many male sports are being eliminated, ESPN will just be X-games and reruns of football classics. (Yawn)

[Dr Warmoose]

ohioWworshipper said:

You hate President Bush. You think he's a liar... In the mean time, know that every time you spout your 'Bush is a liar' garbage, you make every RAT who's lurking or posting very happy.

Watch out, ohioWworshipper will demand that the Admin Moderator censor you if you don't bow down and worship "W". This is what true "W" cultists do: Threaten, harass, censor, and demand blind allegiance to anyone who sports a "R" after their name.

[MatthewViti]

Thanks for the post! Great reply! I can give you countless examples of this sort of intimidation.