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To: VetsRule
Your citations (particularly on Freund) are erroneous and taken out of context.

Freunds data is not erroneous, what are you talking about?

Kurt Freund actually studied two groups and found that gay men responded no more to male child stimuli than heterosexual men responded to female child stimuli.

Two groups? Are you talking about the control group for Freund /Watson 92’, another study, Freund’s silly phalometer study? Usually when someone cites a study it’s customary to actually cite what study you’re talking about, methinks you are just parroting the gobbledygook from rainbowallianceopenfaith.homestead.com

He also described the notion that gay men are more likely than straight men to be child molesters as a "myth".

Cold hard data is not a “myth”, homosexuals offend at a greater rate than heterosexuals, those figures are from Freund’s research and unless you can debunk them it looks like you’ve got to live with that reality.

The Schmidt article

It was a book sweetheart, now I know you really don’t know what you are talking about.

(just like the "Family Research Council" studies)

Again it’s customary to actually cite a study when citing a study, it helps us to know what the heck you are talking about. The FRC has done studies?

that you cite is a joke, and is not worth further comment.

Excellent analysis, caulk full of facts and compelling insight why Schmidt’s book is wrong. Actually, homosexual reviews of his book were very positive except for chapter 6, should you ever find the time to read it maybe you can tell me what you disagree with?

I would also note (with credit on the specifics to various Google searches...the general information has been out there for years) the following findings from the PEER-REVIEWED journal "Pediatrics" in July of 1994:

Again it’s customary to actually cite which “study" you are talking about, never heard of a journal called “Pediatrics” but I’ll trust you…methinks the following are just a bunch of statistics from rainbowallianceopenfaith.homestead.com from the outcome based Carol Jenny study in ONE hospital in Denver, she too presumed you’re not a homosexual if you have same-sex sexual relations. Rather laughable don’t you think?

The rest of your cut and paste job is just more propaganda from rainbowallianceopenfaith.homestead.com, should you ever have the capacity to discuss the actual “studies” intelligently let me know, otherwise be prepared to stand in a long line of uninformed homosexual propagandists that get ZOTed of FR here lately. Id’ be careful posting homosexual BS if I were you.

Whoops saw this at the end.

Also, please see: http://psychology.ucdavis.edu/rainbow/html/facts_molestation.html

Ah yes Dr. Herek’s web site…you know he’s a self-serving homosexual “Psychologist” from the APA’s Division 44 don’t you? Need I say more?

587 posted on 07/30/2003 8:29:56 AM PDT by Clint N. Suhks
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To: Clint N. Suhks
I'm afraid we'll have to agree to disagree. Oh, and I'm no more of a propagandist than you are; I'm just sick of the notion that conservatism must equal mean-spirited bigotry.

VR

600 posted on 07/30/2003 9:06:19 AM PDT by VetsRule ("Queer Eye for the Straight Guy" Is Good TV)
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