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Bush, Republicans losing support of retired veterans
Knight Ridder ^ | 07-28-03

Posted on 07/28/2003 7:32:04 AM PDT by Brian S

Knight Ridder Newspapers

WASHINGTON - President Bush and his Republican Party are facing a political backlash from an unlikely group - retired veterans.

Normally Republican, many retired veterans are mad that Bush and the Republican-controlled Congress are blocking remedies to two problems with health and pension benefits. They say they feel particularly betrayed by Bush, who appealed to them in his 2000 campaign, and who vowed on the eve of his inauguration that "promises made to our veterans will be promises kept."

"He pats us on the back with his speeches and stabs us in the back with his actions," said Charles A. Carter of Shawnee, Okla., a retired Navy senior chief petty officer. "I will vote non-Republican in a heart beat if it continues as is."

"I feel betrayed," said Raymond C. Oden Jr., a retired Air Force Chief Master Sergeant now living in Abilene, Texas.

Many veterans say they will not vote for Bush or any Republican in 2004 and are considering voting for a Democrat for the first time. Others say they will sit out the election, angry with Bush and Republicans but unwilling to support Democrats, whom they say are no better at keeping promises to veterans. Some say they will still support Bush and his party despite their ire.

While there are no recent polls to measure veterans' political leanings, any significant erosion of support for Bush and Republicans could hurt in a close election. It could be particularly troublesome in states such as Florida that are politically divided and crowded with military retirees.

Registered Republican James Cook, who retired to Fort Walton Beach, Fla., after 24 years in the Air Force, said he is abandoning a party that he said abandoned him. "Bush is a liar," he said. "The Republicans in Congress, with very few exceptions, are gutless party lapdogs who listen to what puts money in their own pockets or what will get them re-elected."

Veterans have two gripes.

One is a longstanding complaint that some disabled vets, in effect, have to pay their own disability benefits out of their retirement pay through a law they call the Disabled Veterans Tax.

Since 1891, anyone retiring after a full military career has had their retirement pay reduced dollar for dollar for any Veterans Administration checks they get for a permanent service-related disability. However, a veteran who served a two-or-four-year tour does not have a similar reduction in Social Security or private pension.

A majority of members of Congress, from both parties, wants to change the law. A House proposal by Rep. Jim Marshall, D-Ga., has 345 co-sponsors.

But it would cost as much as $5 billion a year to expand payments to 670,000 disabled veterans, and Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld earlier this month told lawmakers that the president would veto any bill including the change.

The proposal is stuck in committee. A recent effort to bring it to the full House of Representatives failed, in part because only one Republican signed the petition.

"The cost is exorbitant. And we are dealing with a limited budget," said Harald Stavenas, a spokesman for the House Armed Services Committee.

The second complaint is over medical care. After decades of promising free medical care for life to anyone who served for 20 years, the government in the 1990s abandoned the promise in favor of a new system called Tricare. The Tricare system provides medical care, but requires veterans to pay a deductible and does not cover dental, hearing or vision care.

A group of military retirees challenged the government in a class-action lawsuit, won a first round, then were seriously disappointed when Bush allowed the government to appeal. Government won the next legal round.

"I voted for the president because of the promises," said Floyd Sears, a retired Air Force master sergeant in Biloxi, Miss. "But as far as I can tell, he has done nothing. In fact, his actions have been detrimental to the veterans and retired veterans. I'm very disappointed about the broken promise on medical care."

Stavenas said House and Senate negotiators were working this week on proposals to address the veterans' two specific complaints. He added that Congress has increased spending for veterans' benefits, including a 5 percent increase next year for the Veterans Health Administration.

Christine Iverson, a spokeswoman for the Republican National Committee, said: "The Bush administration and the Republican Congress have taken and will continue to take steps to enhance benefits for our veterans."

Not all military retirees will vote against Republicans, of course. Some, like retired Air Force Lt. Col. Gene DiBartolo of Tampa, will vote for Bush again gladly.

Though he believes his fellow veterans have a just complaint, he said the government simply cannot "do everything."

As for Bush, he said, "he has restored honor and dignity to this nation ...

"It would take a lot more than this issue to dissuade me from my support of this man."


TOPICS: Front Page News; Government; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: bushdoctrine; dav; gwb2004; promises; retirees; veterans; veteransvote
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To: Howlin; Miss Marple; Poohbah; Luis Gonzalez; PJ-Comix; Jim Robinson; PhiKapMom; ...
Yes, there seems to be a huge upswing lately of "good conservatives" who seem to think that the GOP has gone astray. Lot of these folks concerned about the "culture", too.

The more I see `em post BS, the less I like `em. I'm beginning to think David Frum had it right on when he called the paleo-cons outs, and made his mistake by NOT pounding into some of these paleo-cons for what is very close to bigotry - and I'm not using that term lightly.
81 posted on 07/28/2003 10:06:00 AM PDT by hchutch (The National League needs to adopt the designated hitter rule.)
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To: Brian S
Who can blame these vets from being mad at Bush? He can't see fit to spend $5 billion extra per year to help our men who bled for this nation in war, but he blissfully throws $15 billion down the Africa-AIDS rathole.

Bush is pissing me off too lately, what with the 28-page Saudi censorship and the policy shift on Hamas today. What the hell is going on in the White House?

82 posted on 07/28/2003 10:06:56 AM PDT by montag813
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To: Brian S
Another story to ambush Bush.
83 posted on 07/28/2003 10:11:55 AM PDT by freekitty
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To: SLB
If the demos march out someone with a little character and dazzlement Bush might find himself standing with dad in the un-employment line.

No such creature exists in the Democrat party nor has for a generation.

84 posted on 07/28/2003 10:11:56 AM PDT by NeoCaveman
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To: hchutch

Add me to the list, there's still allot of room for improvement here.

IMO

85 posted on 07/28/2003 10:14:20 AM PDT by Jhoffa_
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To: montag813
If you don't like the job he's doing, if you're getting ticked off, take your best shot at him, either in the primaries, by staying home or going the third party route...

But understand that he won't owe you a damn thing if he's re-elected.
86 posted on 07/28/2003 10:17:53 AM PDT by hchutch (The National League needs to adopt the designated hitter rule.)
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To: Miss Marple
So we have banned Freepers to look forward to returning under new screen names? Maybe we could make this into a game to find the returning posters and out them!

Do believe calling us Bushbots outs them! They are behind the times!
87 posted on 07/28/2003 10:21:39 AM PDT by PhiKapMom (Bush Cheney '04 - VICTORY IN '04 -- $4 for '04 - www.GeorgeWBush.com/donate/)
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To: montag813
What the hell is going on in the White House?

I can only assume that you would like Dean, Kerry, or another Clinton handling the national security, taxes, and the appointment of the judiciary!!

88 posted on 07/28/2003 10:22:12 AM PDT by woodyinscc
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To: Full Auto Stop
Rush has always been either hot or cold with Bush. It's hard to keep up with his 'schizophrenia.'
91 posted on 07/28/2003 10:28:42 AM PDT by ohioWfan
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To: Full Auto Stop
Rush can gripe all he wants. He did the same thing with Bush's father and pumped up Buchanan. Holding his feet to the fire, you know, and all of that.

By the time the Perot danger was recognized, Rush had to scramble back to supporting President Bush. Too little, too late.

I quit listening to Rush about a year ago, and I imagine there are quite a few more like me. He is no expert in politics, since he has made several wrong predictions, including the one in which he said that Mrs. Clinton would NEVER run for the Senate.

So I don't care one bit what his opinion is.

I base my opinions on what I think is right, not what RUSH thinks is right.

94 posted on 07/28/2003 10:32:05 AM PDT by Miss Marple
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To: Full Auto Stop
More and more, the conservative "base" is driving people like me to the middle.
96 posted on 07/28/2003 10:33:30 AM PDT by Miss Marple
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To: Full Auto Stop; Poohbah; PhiKapMom
The "conservative base"? Which base are you talking about? The kamikaze crowd? The "all-or-nothing" crowd that gave Reagan crap back in the day?

I'm trembling with fear...
97 posted on 07/28/2003 10:35:30 AM PDT by hchutch (The National League needs to adopt the designated hitter rule.)
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To: Full Auto Stop
Since he's saying the same things people like me, and everyone else you people have dismissed as fringe right-wing, single issue, bigots.

Signed up July 11, 2003. Who are you really??

98 posted on 07/28/2003 10:35:49 AM PDT by ohioWfan
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