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Let's face reality:

If you are a patriotic American who believes in God, Country, duty, honor, family, etc, and believe that we have a God-given right to exist as a free nation, and that right includes the right and DUTY to defend ourselves from attack by foreign powers and that as Commander-in-Chief, George W. Bush is doing one hell of a great job in executing the duties of his office and that the liberal Democrats would only roll over for the terrorists if they were in power, and that the only way to ever regain our constitutional government or to re-secure our Liberty is to totally reject the evils of liberalism/socialism/marxism and to do as much as possible to block them from holding office and to do all in our power to cause a complete turnover, ie, eliminate as many liberals/abobortionists/homosexualists/traitors, etc, as possible from the elected government and from the judiciary ---then you are a FReeper.

If you believe that America is at fault for 9/11, or that America actually allowed 9/11 to happen (allegedly to rob us of our freedom), or that Bush actually did the dirty deed himself, or that America has no right to defend itself, or that America would be better off with a Democrat as president (as in: Gore, Lieberman, Clinton, Dean, Kerry, Kucinich, et al), or with Democrats controlling the Congress, or that America is for whites only, or that Israel is the root of all our problems, or that Bush is a traitor or a corrupt dictator who is delivering America to the "NWO" ---then you are NOT a FReeper and you would definitely fit right in over at LibertyPost, LibertyForum, SamFrancis, et al.

And that's the bottom line, IMHO.

the only way to ever regain our constitutional government or to re-secure our Liberty is to totally reject the evils of liberalism/socialism/marxism

So, why, then, do folks who are opposed to Bush's desire to massively expand Medicare catch so much guff lately here on FR? One should oppose large-scale expansion of government, whether it's done by the Dems OR the GOP - and if ONE more GOP House member had voted against the Medicare prescription drug bill, it would have died there on the House floor. And all the GOPers voting against that bill are solid conservatives.

It is a DUTY to defend the nation from attackers -- attackers have different tactics. Each of us sees some of those attacks, attack modes, not all. No one sees all of them. Yet if we respect the other fellow citizen and fighter, even when he seems to take a position on what we might see as the wrong -- I mean wrong "questionable" -- side, we might have a better chance at survival and be less harmed.

Liberty Post is full of people who don't trust Bush, think he is a liar, people whose expressions about Bush and his Administration are almost exactly those of the most G-d unfearing liberal. Yet I think those expressions are thin -- how can they be thick, there is no truth to them, no real basis. Bush is a man who is committed to honesty. A politician and raised in a political family, his words have to be weighed in the context of the political circumstance in which he makes them. When he talks as the President is words are honest like gold, when he talks on the campaign trail in free discussion, sometimes he loosens up and his words can be misinterpreted, given too strict a scrutiny. I think that is the what many LPer's have done.

If it is that, which I think it is, it is a fault of their high-expectations. And faults due to high-expectations don't get treated like faults due to rebellion and meaness. They are people who have high standards and expectations of what this Nation can be, and who would like to discuss -- in energetic, free-form discussion -- so as to resolve differences between what they observe and those expectations.

There are clear concerns that are frightening to conservative and constitutionalists with some of President Bush's actions -- CFR, spending, I don't keep a list, some do. But if those points aren't resolved or at least freely discussed, I think that makes Mr. Bush more vulnerable. Especially in an election against a smooth-talking nerf-ball like Dean.

If you are a patriotic American who believes in God, Country, duty, honor, family, etc, and believe that we have a God-given right to exist as a free nation, and that right includes the right and DUTY to defend ourselves from attack by foreign powers and that as Commander-in-Chief, George W. Bush is doing one hell of a great job in executing the duties of his office and that the liberal Democrats would only roll over for the terrorists if they were in power, and that the only way to ever regain our constitutional government or to re-secure our Liberty is to totally reject the evils of liberalism/socialism/marxism and to do as much as possible to block them from holding office and to do all in our power to cause a complete turnover, ie, eliminate as many liberals/abobortionists/homosexualists/traitors, etc, as possible from the elected government and from the judiciary ---then you are a FReeper

I think that is the best desciption I have seen in a long time of true AMERICANS. From what I have seen in my brief tenure on this board, a lot of FREEPERS represent the best bottom line movement of American ideals presented in quite a long time.

...to totally reject the evils of liberalism/socialism/marxism and to do as much as possible to block them from holding office and to do all in our power to cause a complete turnover, ie, eliminate as many liberals/abobortionists/homosexualists/traitors, etc, as possible from the elected government and from the judiciary ---then you are a FReeper.

And if one doesn't entirely agree does this mean they are not welcome here or cannot carry the Conservative banner in accordance with their own vision of freedom? I believe in freedom and personal responsibility and consistency requires me to realize that some people will choose to exercise their freedoms in ways I may or you may abhor. I will think long and hard about any "license" to exclude...that is a vicious tool of the left.