[mr.pink]

Novak hasn't made sense for a long time and neither has Sen Hagel. But they do now!

LOL...you really wanna' pit Canadian David Frum's "patriotism" up against this guys?...a guy who's proven his when it really counts?

Hagel served in Vietnam with his brother Tom in 1968. They served side by side as infantry squad leaders with the U.S. Army's 9th Infantry Division. Hagel earned many military decorations and honors, including two Purple Hearts.

[Captain Kennit]

Where did Frum serve, if you know? What are his patriotic credentials, if I may ask? By patriotic, I refer to America.

[PhiKapMom]

I know all about Hagels record and I respect him for what he did in Vietnam. Does that mean he gets a free pass for the rest of his time in Government service? No way! When he came out opposed to what the Bush Administration is doing with the removal of the Saddam regime, my respect for him as a Senator went lower than before.

With your thinking, I would have to respect Kerry and John Glenn as Senators because they were Veterans! No way!

[My2Cents]

So, then, we thank them for their service, but the fact Hagel served in Vietnam doesn't give him a pass when he's dead wrong on public policy matters. Your reasoning is like saying the only people who should have any legitimacy to argue abortion are women, because it's "their bodies," or that the only ones who have a right to debate issues of war and peace are those who actually have been in war.