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Pop singer Beyonce Knowles performs scantily-clad dance on tomb of President Ulysses S Grant
BBC News/Entertainment On Line ^ | Monday, 14 July | staff writer

Posted on 07/14/2003 7:32:25 AM PDT by yankeedame

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To: stainlessbanner
ROTFL!

if he came to our camp and said that, he'd get a better response than the fellow who recently spoke there and told us what a great leader mr lincoln was!

free dixie,sw

161 posted on 07/14/2003 2:11:26 PM PDT by stand watie (Resistence to tyrants is obedience to God. -Thomas Jefferson)
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To: Wordsmith
I thought Caucasian curling predated the founding of America, and thus the existence of "African-Americans" at all, but am no expert.

I said Caucasian-American.

Certainly this is an extreme result. But, many women - including my dear MIL - can't afford "practitioners" and must make do with hair straighter from Walgreens.

I do believe that, therein, lies the problem. Self-perm/self-straightening is, emphatically, a no-no, as far as I am informed.

Could not you and the wife (along with whatever other siblings your wife has) make your MIL a periodic gift of a decent hairstyling every quarter or so ?

Indeed, and more power to them. I admit that I find straightened hair on black women attractive. But, having seen first hand how artificial it is, for me it ranks up there with breast implants and toupees on the list of modifications which I'd rather not see done.

More power to you.

162 posted on 07/14/2003 2:11:36 PM PDT by Quester
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To: mafree
Uppity was usually an adjective for a racial epithet.
163 posted on 07/14/2003 2:11:41 PM PDT by wordsofearnest (Ban the designated hitter from the face of the Earth.)
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To: crazykatz
I, for one like to see people who from all over the USA write about history. But, not to complain or whine about the results or the participants. I also hate to see people BOASTING over events for which they offered no assistance. BATTLES, for example.

I do not think that my Dad, born and raised in California of Ohio-born parents and who graduated from West Point, ever had a nice thing to say about General Grant. He much preferred General Washington, as do I.

My Dad's Great-grandfather was a Union officer and my mother's served in an Alabama unit of the CSA.

My goodness... we just did NOT fight the Civil War in our family... it was JUST HISTORY to us.

I understand your situation here and I think you did pretty well with the situation.

Grant most likely liked to drink... so what? He is DEAD now.

164 posted on 07/14/2003 2:12:46 PM PDT by crazykatz
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To: Im Your Huckleberry
Yes, sireee... I am waving a red flag in front of your BULL all right! LOL!!
165 posted on 07/14/2003 2:16:43 PM PDT by crazykatz
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To: stand watie
You mean Ol' Abraham Saint Lincoln?


< /sarcasm >
166 posted on 07/14/2003 2:16:53 PM PDT by azhenfud ("for every government action, there must be an equal and opposite reaction")
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To: mafree
Women period have issues with hair... it seems as if women's issues are because of what men think about them
167 posted on 07/14/2003 2:46:08 PM PDT by cyborg (i'm a mutt american)
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To: Pharmboy
Schwing!
168 posted on 07/14/2003 2:55:32 PM PDT by ffusco (Maecilius Fuscus,Governor of Longovicium , Manchester, England. 238-244 AD)
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To: Im Your Huckleberry
So yeah, I get more than a little sick of the disrespect from those that wish Lee had won, and they could preserve states rights...and own all the slaves they wanted to today.

I've lived in the South for 30 years. I, nor anyone else in my entire family, currently does, or ever has, owned a single slave. I can with certainty say the same thing about my friends and associates.

I can also say with certainty that there are lots of other people like myself who are a lot sick and tired of taking s**t from northern liberals like yourself, whose only knowledge of the people and culture of the South comes from New York Times opinion pieces that literally ooze hatred and condescension for anyone who chooses to live down here. Contrary to what your oracle of societal knowledge Maureen Dowd says, all Southerners are not toothless, illiterate troglodytes who obsess over "keeping the colored down," all the while banging our Bibles when we're not beating our wives.

I know we Southerners are totally offensive to your "refined" sense of aesthetics and culture (everything would be so much better if we were more like the French, right?). Too f**king bad - we're here, we're part of this nation and all your rantings about how everyone in the South is a racist slave owner wanna-be aren't going to change that one bit.

169 posted on 07/14/2003 2:57:53 PM PDT by CFC__VRWC (Hippies. They want to save the earth, but all they do is smoke dope and smell bad.)
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To: LQDSWRD
Up scope!
170 posted on 07/14/2003 2:58:53 PM PDT by ffusco (Maecilius Fuscus,Governor of Longovicium , Manchester, England. 238-244 AD)
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To: Chancellor Palpatine
Babies' got silicone. Used up the national stockpile.

Silicone is no longer used.

171 posted on 07/14/2003 3:00:53 PM PDT by cinFLA
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To: Eowyn-of-Rohan
why have they all betrayed their race by rejecting the hair they were born with??

No woman ever likes the hair she was born with. Whites and Aisans perm their hair, blacks straighten it, and who the heck cares? Whatever looks good - well, just looks good. I think Beyonce definitely looks good. I'm a woman (white), and I sure wouldn't mind looking like her!!!

172 posted on 07/14/2003 3:13:41 PM PDT by livius
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To: cyborg
"Colored" used to be a word used to refer to negroes, that is, when they were called negro, which is a synonym for black. Now you can't say negro and you can't say colored (which I never did anyway), but you can say black and "of color" which imples "whites" have NO color. What to do.....
173 posted on 07/14/2003 3:16:19 PM PDT by Eowyn-of-Rohan
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To: mafree
"Just about any Black woman can write a book on the crap we go through over hair."

LOL!
174 posted on 07/14/2003 3:16:35 PM PDT by ffusco (Maecilius Fuscus,Governor of Longovicium , Manchester, England. 238-244 AD)
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To: Eowyn-of-Rohan
I can't stand that term 'people of color'. Yeah really what to do... whatever people want to call themselves is fine with me. But I think it's getting ridiculous with being politically correct
175 posted on 07/14/2003 3:27:29 PM PDT by cyborg (i'm a mutt american)
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To: CFC__VRWC
First, if you think I'm a liberal, you might want to check out some of my posting history. You're sadly mistaken. I'm to the right of Attila the Hun. If I had a nickle for every argument I've had with a liberal that ended with them using the words "Fascist" or "Nazi", I'd be a gazillionaire today.

Second, I have no beef with the South today, or southern people as a whole. Never have. I was just in Tennessee and Mississippi in May, and had a great time. Excellent food, nice folks for the most part (though I did, certainly, encounter the "Lost Cause" types, too). In fact, I have to go there to find decent food - you can't get decent Chicken Fried Steak or Grits north of the Mason-Dixon, or West of the Mississippi (well, maybe Texas, but...).

Third, I never qualified all southerners as "toothless, illiterate, troglodytes who obsess over keeping the colored down".

Fourth, Southerners are not totally offensive to my refined (that comes with a guffaw...there's very little about me that's "refined") sense of aesthetics and culture.

Fifth, you'll notice my argument was with the "Lost Cause" adherents, those Southerners who look back, all weepy-eyed, at the "Moonlight & Magnolia" days of the South, and think they would be better off if those days returned. The one's who think the South was "right" and should have won the war. The system they "yearn" to return to, was one built upon enslavement of human beings. They think it was right to fight for that, or worse, to fight for "states rights" in disregard of the issue. Those people I have a problem with.

But I'm not one to mistake all Southerners as part of the "Lost Cause" crowd. But the "Lost Cause" mentality is pervasive among a certain subset of the population, and that's what I was talking about.

It's the South that held onto the war. I believe that's why in Civil War circles, 90% of the talk is about the Southern generals, the battles that resulted in Southern victories, and the "if only" scenarios.

As a Civil War addict, I get tired of the attention and focus placed on the South, and when I encounter "Lost Cause" adherents that seek to demean the Union side, I take them on, and I stand up for the side that won.

176 posted on 07/14/2003 3:47:28 PM PDT by Im Your Huckleberry
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To: stainlessbanner
This is insane. A travesty. An insult.
177 posted on 07/14/2003 4:15:32 PM PDT by 4CJ ("If ignorance is bliss, then dims and neocons are on cloud nine")
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To: mafree
To most Black folks who study their history, the word "uppity" was a way of telling them "Who do you think you are? You're too big for your britches. You're asking for too much. Get back in the inferior, second-class place we have for you."

The underlined part of your quote was EXACTLY what my dear white Momma meant when she told her white children "Don't you get uppity with me!" I just had no idea it was a "charged" word, until, like I said, I saw that old episode of Benson.

I agree with the other poster who thought it was a shame that the word had such a bad rap, because (racial overtones aside) it's really pretty unique and conveys a very specific meaning.

"Those trailer trash Clintons got all uppity and thought nobody would mind they stole that furniture from the White House."

BTW, thank you for the history behind it.

178 posted on 07/14/2003 4:36:48 PM PDT by TontoKowalski
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To: cyborg
I agree... they can call themselves whattever they want to, and the "PC" situation is so stifling and out of control... but what do "they" want to be called by others? That is what I need to know... what words are Ok, and what not? I saw someone (you?) earlier said that the word "uppity" is racist? I had no clue. I dont want to offend anyone or make a fool out of myself... easier to hide in your house ;-)
179 posted on 07/14/2003 4:38:06 PM PDT by Eowyn-of-Rohan
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To: mafree
Very interesting.... but it also is and has been used by whites against whites. For a LONGGGG time.
180 posted on 07/14/2003 4:40:09 PM PDT by Eowyn-of-Rohan
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