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The Tenet Fiasco - Discussion Thread
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Posted on 07/12/2003 12:52:33 PM PDT by Cathryn Crawford

George Tenet's admission last night that it was his mistake that caused President Bush to use faulty intelligence in his State of The Union address is interesting at the same time as it is convienent. In the statement itself, which is lengthy and filled with reasons as to the intelligence failure, Tenet wholeheartedly takes responsility for his agency.

"Let me be clear about several things right up front. First, CIA approved the President's State of the Union address before it was delivered. Second, I am responsible for the approval process in my Agency. And third, the President had every reason to believe that the text presented to him was sound. These 16 words should never have been included in the text written for the President. "

On the face of it, this admission seems like the perfect solution to the growing problems for both the Bush and Blair administration. It's all CIA's fault, they can claim. But is that really viable?

On the face of it, perhaps. But Bush is the President. He has to take final responsibility, doesn't he?

If Bush can truly claim to know absolutely nothing, then don't we have a serious problem - wouldn't that imply that Bush is either incompetent or is simply not paying attention?

For discussion purposes - has Bush been conned by Tenet? And if he has, isn't that rather serious?

And if he wasn't conned by Tenet, what is the alternative?


TOPICS: Editorial; Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; Government; War on Terror
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To: Cathryn Crawford
Yeah, well,

You know my opinions about their opinions!
421 posted on 07/12/2003 6:14:40 PM PDT by Quix (LIVE THREAD NOW STARTED. UFO special Tues eve & share opinions)
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To: wingnuts'nbolts
I have found CAT to be an earnest and highly motivated, qualified, committed, sharing in our shared goals sort of great FREEPER.

Personally, I think you demean yourself by throwing rocks at her.
422 posted on 07/12/2003 6:17:00 PM PDT by Quix (LIVE THREAD NOW STARTED. UFO special Tues eve & share opinions)
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To: Quix
I have found CAT to be an earnest and highly motivated, qualified, committed, sharing in our shared goals sort of great FREEPER.

Personally, I think you demean yourself by throwing rocks at her.

And you think Rummy is the anti-Christ? Good grief.

423 posted on 07/12/2003 6:21:22 PM PDT by Lauratealeaf
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To: Cathryn Crawford
ON THE SAME LEVEL AS THE EASTER BUNNY?

Weren't they during Billdo and Shrillery Hellery Antoinette de Fosterizer de Marx de Sade's reign?
424 posted on 07/12/2003 6:23:02 PM PDT by Quix (LIVE THREAD NOW STARTED. UFO special Tues eve & share opinions)
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To: Uncle Bill
Pretty impressive with the quotes.
425 posted on 07/12/2003 6:23:05 PM PDT by Pan_Yans Wife (Lurking since 2000.)
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To: Quix; Cathryn Crawford
Personally, I think you demean yourself by throwing rocks at her.

Uh she was the one who decided to throw the first rock. There is a plethora of threads about this DNC/liberal media tempest in a teapot.

I can't help if you don't like the fact she got her head handed to her on a plate on this thread.

426 posted on 07/12/2003 6:23:09 PM PDT by Dane
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To: Lauratealeaf

427 posted on 07/12/2003 6:25:49 PM PDT by DaughterOfAnIwoJimaVet
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To: Quix; Cathryn Crawford
I have found CAT to be an earnest and highly motivated, qualified, committed, sharing in our shared goals sort of great FREEPER.

She's one of the best.

And she always keeps it interesting!

428 posted on 07/12/2003 6:26:30 PM PDT by Scenic Sounds (Summertime!)
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To: BigWaveBetty
Maybe you aren't reading the same Cathryn Crawford I am.

I think there's galactic differences between CAT and BABS.

The one in California is a boob.

The one in Texas has boobs and "balls" without being a hermaphrodite.

I'd be happy to be around the Texan any day.

Perhaps Babs ego will teeter her over her cliff into the sea some day.
429 posted on 07/12/2003 6:27:21 PM PDT by Quix (LIVE THREAD NOW STARTED. UFO special Tues eve & share opinions)
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To: Quix
The one in Texas has boobs and "balls" without being a hermaphrodite.

You have an interesting way of flattering someone, I will say that for you. ; )

430 posted on 07/12/2003 6:28:35 PM PDT by DaughterOfAnIwoJimaVet
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To: Neets
Other wise it could be construed as ganging up, piling on, taunting, baiting, etc.

Honey, I'm home. :-)

431 posted on 07/12/2003 6:28:35 PM PDT by Howlin
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To: Patriotic Bostonian; Cathryn Crawford
So, you can spot a liberal anywhere.

I guess in CAT's case, that means you need new glasses, if not new eyes.
432 posted on 07/12/2003 6:28:58 PM PDT by Quix (LIVE THREAD NOW STARTED. UFO special Tues eve & share opinions)
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To: Quix
I still suspect Rummy of being one of the leading puppet masters working for one world government to be led by the Anti-Christ.

If you can't see that Rumsfield is one of the ones on the frontline fighting the anti-Christ at this very moment you are stuck in some kind of time warp. Who could be more the anti-Christ than the Islamist? They come under the name of God (Allah) and commit the sins of the devil. They seek world domination controlled by themselves and intend to impose their anti-Christ rule over all whom they don't torture or kill.

Rummy is part of that? You apparently won't know the anti-Christ when he pokes his pointy tail in your eye.

433 posted on 07/12/2003 6:30:30 PM PDT by Mind-numbed Robot (Not all things that need to be done need to be done by the government.)
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To: Howlin
Hey, who do YOU think the anti-Christ is?
434 posted on 07/12/2003 6:31:12 PM PDT by Miss Marple
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To: Quix
You think criticism of CAT was "off the wall" and then your very next post says that Rumsfeld is the anti-Christ. That's the funniest thing I've read in days!!!!
435 posted on 07/12/2003 6:32:24 PM PDT by Peach
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To: Pan_Yans Wife
Oh, I doubt Rummy would own even believing in the AntiChrist. And I sure don't know whether he has any conscious associations with the mostly unknown person either.

But he just strikes me as a dyed in the wool globalist.

He sounds patriotic and seems to act that way most of the time and I respect a lot of things about him including the way he handles the press etc.

But I don't trust him in terms of globalism. And I wouldn't doubt for a minute if he among a group of puppet-master globalists decided to threaten Bush--that he'd hesitate to do it.

I don't think very many humans yet know who the Anti-Christ is and I certainly haven't bought into the assertions on some sites that this or that person is. However, I do believe he's alive and has been manipulating many things behind the scenes. I believe he's getting things all cocked and ready to spring on the world stage at his chosen time.

He's just stupid enough to think he can out fox God. I read the end of The Book. I know who wins.

It ain't the puppet masters. It ain't the Anti-Christ.

Hallelujah!
436 posted on 07/12/2003 6:36:20 PM PDT by Quix (LIVE THREAD NOW STARTED. UFO special Tues eve & share opinions)
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To: Miss Marple
LOL

I gotta say this.

Last night I went on the thread where it was talking about Blair not receiving the medal from Congress when he comes to visit. And someone in Parliament said that if Blair accepted that medal, it would be like accepting it from Satan.

I posted a comment where I said that some people say that Bush is the anti-Christ. And boy, did I ever get slammed.

The funniest part was, I was stating a fact, not an opinion. I have no idea who the anti-Christ is. To be perfectly honest, I DON'T WANT TO KNOW!

437 posted on 07/12/2003 6:36:34 PM PDT by Pan_Yans Wife (Lurking since 2000.)
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To: Howlin
Why do I get the feeling "somebody" has a column due tomorrow and that they're trolling for factoids and/or reactions.

Hey, how did you get the Gift?


438 posted on 07/12/2003 6:36:43 PM PDT by Sabertooth
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To: Lauratealeaf
If I may interject a complete non sequitur: Whoever added "MYCOUSINKNOWSCLAY" to the keywords list deserves some kind of award.
439 posted on 07/12/2003 6:36:54 PM PDT by Dont Mention the War
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To: Miss Marple
I can sort of see what you might mean.

But I think I need you to spell it out so I get it's full breadth and depth. Am tired tonight.
440 posted on 07/12/2003 6:37:00 PM PDT by Quix (LIVE THREAD NOW STARTED. UFO special Tues eve & share opinions)
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