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Treason: Horowitz v. Coulter
Mensnewsdaily.com ^ | 7/11/03 | Bruce Walker

Posted on 07/11/2003 9:35:43 AM PDT by DPB101

David Horowitz has published a long critique of Ann Coulter’s blockbuster Treason.  While David goes to great pains to express admiration for Ann’s work, he also makes it clear that he believes parts of Treason are wrong. The heart of his concern is that the Democrat Party is indicted as a co-conspirator in Treason

Horowitz believes that Democrats are not recognized in Treason for the role that they played in thwarting communism, and he points out a number of important facts which someone who only read Treason would not know.

Democrat Senator “Scoop” Jackson of Washington State was as an implacable a foe of Soviet imperialism.  Democrat  Jeanne Kirkpatrick was an eloquent defender of American resistance to totalitarianism.  Ronald Reagan was a Democrat until 1963.

That list is not exhaustive. George Meany, longtime boss of the AFL-CIO, was a steadfast enemy of Soviet machinations.  Senator Daniel Patrick Moynihan, a principled liberal Democrat from New York, is responsible for Ann Coulter having the very Venona decrypts essential to exposing the depths of Soviet penetration of America.

Does this mean that the Coulter has reached a false conclusion about the role of the Democrat Party in the communist subversion of America? No. Treason does not necessarily mean ideological treason of sort now proven conclusively by Venona. Bill Clinton’s draft-dodging was because he was pragmatic treason.  This sort of pragmatic treason infested the Democrat Party.

Scoop Jackson was a liberal from a swing state whose career was clean as a whistle and who could appeal to anti-communists. He stood a good chance of winning the presidency, if Democrats would have ever nominated him.  Scoop ran for the nomination, but he never had a chance. His anti-communism - and only is anti-communism - doomed him from the beginning.

Jeanne Kirkpatrick was a Democrat, but her most famous speech echoes the language at the beginning of Treason which bothers Horowitz. What were those resonating refrains from Kirkpatrick’s 1984 speech to the Republican Convention? “But they always blame America first.” What was the context of her remarks?  Reelect a Republican president.

Which Republican president? The one who began his political activities as an anti-communist in Hollywood, and who came to realize that principled anti-communism was welcome only in the Republican Party, which he joined in 1963.  Joe McCarthy also began as a Democrat and then became a Republican.  Anti-communists never leave the Republican Party to become Democrats, but often have abandoned the Democrat Party or, like Kirkpatrick, become apostate Democrats.

Horowitz correctly points out that the New Left in 1968 opposed Hubert Humphrey because Humphrey opposed communism and supported the Vietnam War. But this overstates the seriousness of the anti-communism of  LBJ and Hubert Humphrey.  It also presumes a symmetry between the two political parties which simply did not exist.

The two national party conventions in 1968 approached the Vietnam War from dramatically different positions.  Humphrey - Vice President and heir apparent,  the party’s leading champion of civil rights, darling of the AFL-CIO, and universally recognized as a good and decent man - faced a passionate and ferocious attack for his anti-communism.

The New Left did not attack racial bigots within the Democrat Party like J. William Fullbright or Albert Gore Sr. These illiberal Democrats were anti-anti-communists who opposed the Vietnam War. That alone made them heroes, just as Humphrey’s support for the war alone made him a villain.

Richard Nixon began his political career as an anti-communist, but many delegates at the Republican Convention in 1968 worried that he was not anti-communist enough. When Barry Goldwater, the most passionate and radical anti-communist modern in American politics, stepped before the Republican Convention, the delegates burst into thunderous applause.

Ronald Reagan, who would win the Cold War, had only held elective office for  only two years. He had only been a Republican three years.  But Republican delegates seriously considered nominating him as the logical successor to Barry Goldwater.

The New Left did not even bother to show up at the Republican Convention. While the SDS and its crypto-Marxist siblings carried great clout among Democrats, these pro-communist groups had no support at all among Republicans. 

The pragmatic treason of Democrats is well illustrated by LBJ during the 1968 presidential campaign. While America fought a  totalitarian communist enemy, President Johnson announced, a few days before the November election, that he was unilaterally suspending bombing operations against North Vietnam.

The motivation was simple: swing the increasingly close election to Hubert Humphrey by creating an the impression that peace was at hand. Who paid the price for that political pragmatism? America and the South Vietnamese, who were deprived of critically important air power.

Was 1968 the pivotal year in how Democrats approached communism? No. Although David is correct that much of the communists infestation of the federal government was rooted out by the time Truman left office, Truman did not begin in earnest until 1947.  Truman had been president for two years - why did the housecleaning begin in 1947?  Republicans in 1946 won Congress in a huge landslide. Truman pragmatically decided that anti-anti-communism was a political liability.

But Truman continued to defend people later shown to be communists and to attack anti-communists. Truman, as Ann notes, opposed Churchill giving his famous Iron Curtain speech in Missouri. Truman famously sacked MacArthur for trying to win the Korean War, rather than  simply produce a stalemate.

Eisenhower directed his Attorney General to go n television and announce that President Truman had promoted to the leadership of the International Monetary Fund an individual known to be a communist. Why?  Eisenhower was hardly a rabid anti-communist, but he also understood that  Harry Truman had taken the easy course regarding communism in America.

And, of course, the problem of communism in America did not go away simply because the greatest actual traitors - Hiss, White, and the rest - left the most sensitive posts in the federal government. 

The Soviet Union funneled funds into the anti-war movement in America. Communists and communist sympathizers within Hollywood and academia continued to warp American opinions and policies. Would the SDS, Ramparts and the other entities so reflexively supportive of communism have been able to bedevil Hubert Humphrey in 1968 without support from communists in America and without help from Moscow?  

If Democrats were not particularly keen on anti-communism before 1968, their attitude after 1968  was profoundly anti-anti-communist.  George McGovern favored unilateral disarmament. Jimmy Carter did not discover that the Soviet Union was bad until the last year or his presidency. Clinton, visited Moscow during the Vietnam War and stating his loathing for the military during that war against communism.

Perhaps the clearest indiction of how Democrats have felt about communism is the tepid, almost annoyed, attitude Democrats take toward President Reagan’s bloodless victory in the Cold War. This is in sharp contrast to how Republicans have acted under Democrat presidents when America faced enemies. Republicans supported FDR in the Second World War, JFK in the Cuban Missile Crisis and - unlike his fellow Democrats - Republicans supported LBJ in the Vietnam War.

The single real example of Democrats being tough on communism was John Kennedy. It is revealing that Chris Matthews asked three times if Ann Coulter felt JFK was a traitor. She denies that he was, then adds that his heart was in the right place, but that is not enough for Matthews. It is not his repetitive questions that seem to trouble David; it is her answers. 

JFK was strongly anti-communist and he did resist Soviet aggression. The critique that Ann Coulter makes has less to do with JFK’s intentions than with his general incompetence at achieving those goals and with his essentially immoral and dishonest personal life.

Senator McCarthy was presumably censured for bad behavior, when that was clearly not the reason. What is the best evidence of Democrat hypocrisy on the real reasons for destroying McCarthy?  John Kennedy - faithless husband, drug addict, pal of crime bosses, vote stealer...and the list seems to grow each year - was made a martyr, when he was actually simply a victim.

McCarthy was an actual martyr, denied even the dignity of a victim. He stood up to the elites of Washington, Hollywood and New York, aware that his enemies were both powerful and unscrupulous.  Horowitz notes that McCarthy was right on almost everything. McCarthy certainly acted no worse than several thousand other congressional committee chairmen, except that McCarthy fought a real dragon. Does that not deserve some honor, even posthumously?

The Kennedy Klan looks increasingly less benign as times passes. Bobby Kennedy (aka St. Bobby) grew so hostile to anti-communism that by 1968 he was the principal focus of those very anti-anti-communist efforts intended to keep Hubert Humphrey from winning the Democrat nomination. Ted Kennedy never pretended to be anti-communist, and he formed a core of resistance to Ronald Reagan’s plan to win the Cold War.

Were Democrats all traitors - ideologically or pragmatically - during the long decades of struggle with communism? No, of course not.  But was there a profound and fundamental difference in the courage and tenacity that America’s two major political parties displayed in our long battle with the evil empire? Yes, of course there was.

Perhaps the lexicon of the New Left is helpful. During the 1960s, those timid souls who feared the real power of communism called themselves “non-communist” as opposed to “anti-communist”or “communist.” In the war against communism, Republicans leaders were “anti-traitors” and Soviet agents in America were “traitors.” What then were the Democrat leaders?  How about calling “non-traitors”?


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Extended News; Foreign Affairs
KEYWORDS: coulter; davidhorowitz; treason
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To: NYCVirago
heh...heh....can't believe what I say because I have only posted here for two months, huh?

And I defend Ann only because of her looks.

Yeah...right THOSE are not liberal type arguments at all.

As far as what you said on another thread, I may not have been posting here long but I do know the net and carrying things from one thread to the next is not good form.

Why not respond on this thread with something substantial if you have it?

61 posted on 07/11/2003 1:00:09 PM PDT by DPB101
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To: Cicero
I think neocons do not like this book because they like government and if a big half of a two party system is identified as illegitimate, a party BTW that started many programs and policies which they, the neocons support then their cherished ideals become suspect. For neocons formerly being a Democrat is not like being a reformed alcoholic who now sees the evils of drinking. These folks see all the good that government can do they just didn't like the anti-Americanism of the radicals and when the radicals took over the Dem. Party these folks became Republicans. They did not however change there view of benefits of government activism.

Also there is an established elitist aversion to McCarthy and rather than buck the system which they hobnob with they probably would rather shoot the messenger than agree with truth and seem beyond the pale to polite society.

62 posted on 07/11/2003 1:18:37 PM PDT by u-89
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To: CatoRenasci
Being naturally repulsed by all thing Kennedy I never read much about them specifically. Though I never ascribed genius level intelligence to any of them do you really think old Teddy is actually stupid and a pawn? do you think he has advisors and staff that guide his postitions? I just assumed he was a radical liberal of moderate/average IQ with a strong drive to destroy our country.
63 posted on 07/11/2003 1:26:07 PM PDT by u-89
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To: u-89
I think (and have heard from people who actually knew him fairly well 20+ yeara ago) that he is of average intelligence, but not especially astute. I think he is easily manipulated by the extreme left and that is heavily guided by the family advisors, most of whom in recent years have had hard left connections.
64 posted on 07/11/2003 1:48:22 PM PDT by CatoRenasci (Ceterum Censeo [Gallia][Germania][Arabia] Esse Delendam --- Select One or More as needed)
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To: DPB101
A much needed, clear, easily understood piece of reportage ! Your addendum is also just great.

Now, if only these threads are read by ALL FREEPERs, who then spread out, all over the USA and sprfead the TRUTH, perhaps then, the fog of decades of vile propaganda will be disspelled.

65 posted on 07/11/2003 2:10:32 PM PDT by nopardons
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To: Map Kernow
You aren't the only one, who has had those thoughts. I think you've nailed Horowitz, with his own wordsa; hoisted him on his ancient petard...so to speak.
66 posted on 07/11/2003 2:13:06 PM PDT by nopardons
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To: jjm2111
The SS canard has already been debunked on FR. :-)
67 posted on 07/11/2003 2:13:49 PM PDT by nopardons
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To: DPB101
You're not Ann Coulter, are you?

You either a shill, or an academic, or a publisher who has a TON of material at your fingertips about this one subject only.Come on, come clean.You're too slick to be an amateur.
68 posted on 07/11/2003 2:23:58 PM PDT by habs4ever
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To: ClearCase_guy
No...it's VERY productive and WILL open a lot of eyes. It's long past time, that Conservatives use Liberal tactics against the Liberals. Ann's done this and that's why the lefties and a few peculiar , supposed Conservatives are howling.
69 posted on 07/11/2003 2:27:11 PM PDT by nopardons
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To: Diddle E. Squat
WHY ? Because David is still the same person he always has been; it's just that lately, he has come clean to what many ( Me, anyway ) knew was true, in the gut, about who was wgho and what they were doing way back when. He's " seen the light "; but still has a few blindspots.
70 posted on 07/11/2003 2:34:19 PM PDT by nopardons
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To: Map Kernow
Thanks for your continual postings of the facts ! Unfortunately, some here, don't care/know the facts; they just " feel ".
71 posted on 07/11/2003 2:38:26 PM PDT by nopardons
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To: NYCVirago
And THAT would be as stupidly ridiculous, as the drooling, testoserone driven little boys, here, who only see what Ann looks like and ignore her mind. :-)
72 posted on 07/11/2003 2:41:03 PM PDT by nopardons
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To: NYCVirago
I too am an heterosexual woman;however, I think that Ann is GREAT ! She doesn't play the old, worthless Conservative game of being a lady; no, she uses Liberal tactics against them. THis is something I have been doing for decades and it scares the bejebez outta them and works better than anything else ! Ann gets the general public to wake up and take a look at facts, which, if presented in the same old dusty way, would be ignored; just as it ALWAYS has been.

And before anyone decides to say that this kind of mudslinging is below us, read up on the politics, mudslingings, and tactics used by the FFs and their supporters and detractors...in both parties. At least dueling is now outlawed. LOL

73 posted on 07/11/2003 2:48:12 PM PDT by nopardons
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To: NYCVirago
It is against the rules here, to carry arguments from one thread to another. If you can't refute something, without breaking the rules, then give up and don't post.
74 posted on 07/11/2003 2:50:07 PM PDT by nopardons
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To: u-89
Bobby was the rabid anti-Commie ...JFK was only a slightly more polished version of Clinton and one who had less brain power/intelligence. He was driven to get us into the Nam mess, by Jackie and the French, whom Jackie was enthralled with.
75 posted on 07/11/2003 2:52:02 PM PDT by nopardons
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To: DPB101; XJarhead; Chancellor Palpatine; Scenic Sounds; Steel Wolf; arasina; jonalvy44; ricpic; ...
The conservative clash continues. . .
76 posted on 07/11/2003 6:16:51 PM PDT by DPB101
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To: DPB101
Thanks for the ping. Bump to a good post.
77 posted on 07/11/2003 6:28:17 PM PDT by Richard Kimball
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To: jjm2111
I believe it was John Adams who defended a group of "Red Coats" during the revolutionary season. In our country we believe everyone is entitled to a fair trial. Someone has to represent them. Guilty or not!

Therefore, I believe the argument against McCarthy representing an unpopular group is a moot issue. JMO
78 posted on 07/11/2003 6:34:36 PM PDT by hoosiermama (Prayers for all)
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To: nopardons
He was driven to get us into the Nam mess, by Jackie and the French, whom Jackie was enthralled with.

Never heard it put that way before nor ever thought of Nam in that light but what you say actually makes some sense to me. Thanks for posting that.

P.S. I love Paris but was rather bummed when I saw Kennedy Blvd. signs for the first time. Guess the French were enthralled with him - or her too.

79 posted on 07/11/2003 6:35:31 PM PDT by u-89
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To: DPB101
You should send a copy of post #1 to Horowitz. Excellant work!
80 posted on 07/11/2003 6:37:28 PM PDT by hoosiermama (Prayers for all)
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