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To Charley Reese and all you think he is right:
First: we live in America, a blatantly white racist society, where non whites have suffered and continue to suffer injustices by whites and the laws that govern. If you pay attention to this nation's history, you'll see that there have been exceptional people of all races in all endeavors. You seem to forget the climate that still exists for particularly Black, and many non-white people in regard to any endeavor of achievement, even White women: that the white boy gets the first and best of everything, regardless of your superior or determined efforts. The best educational efforts are made where the money is spent and typically non-white eduactional districts don't get the educational attention ($) white districts get, regardless of the parents efforts. Black parents have been your scapegoat long enough.
Second: You can't police someone's mind. The laws that exist now are basically the same as they were some 20 years ago. If an employer (or a dean) didn't want any peolpe of color in his firm(or school), none entered, or entered and worked in a diminished capacity. I agree, affirmative action aleviated some of the white man's guilt. Without a legal mandate (and sports) whites would not have willingly opened the educational doors to blacks, because in many circles the practice was unaccepable, aside from the continued undercurrent of white supremacy, something you are still purporting here.
And: I live in Westchester County, New York. Within 5 miles, one high school is conducted like a small college campus with many activites, well run and attended functions, beautiful school grounds and is fed by solid pre-school and primary ed programs, the other high school is staffed with security guards (that do little or nothing) has regular fights, has teachers afraid of the kids, and has poorly staffed, poorly run programs, fed by kids who come from programs with no computers, not enough books or desks, poorly trained teachers. Which area needs the most financial help? which school system will graduate kids ready to compete in college? WHICH SYSTEM WILL DO NOTHING BUT FEED THE STATE PENAL SYSTEM? WHICH AREAS KIDS FEEL LIKE THEY'VE BEEN GIVEN UP ON FROM VERY EARLY ON? That is why "some" kids do better than others: some are actually nurtured by the combination of school, family and society, or factions thereof.
This "America" still has a lot of problems. One is the sharing of information. You people still forget the effect living in this white socety has on Black people. Even though I wear a Suit and tie to work evry day, I still have white women, clutch their purses closer to themselves when I pass, and still have white men and women look out of their car windows and blatantly lock the doors. What are they trying to tell me? You and the "handkerchief head" negroes beleive the "playing field is level"?

The best educational efforts are made where the money is spent and typically non-white eduactional districts don't get the educational attention ($) white districts get, regardless of the parents efforts.

Explain why Washington, DC, has the highest per-student spending in the country, and the worst student performance. The explanation is something other than money.

I still have white women, clutch their purses closer to themselves when I pass, and still have white men and women look out of their car windows and blatantly lock the doors.

I believe it was Jesse Jackson who admitted that when he walks down a street at night and hears a group of young men walking behind him, he is relieved if they are white. Maybe it's because young black men commit violent crimes at a rate that is six or eight times their representation in the population. Check the FBI's crime stats on their Web site if you don't believe me.

Kelly4023
Since Jul 2, 2003

Welcome to FR! Let me make a few corrections to your post.

America, a blatantly ~~white~~ racist society

Please don't exclude yourself, your post is so apropos for what is really destroying black youth.

Even though I wear a Suit and tie to work evry day, I still have ~~white~~ black women, ~~clutch their purses closer to themselves~~ glare with hatred and epithets when I pass, and still have ~~white~~ black men and women ~~look out of their car windows and blatantly lock the doors~~ drag whitey from his/her car or home in a group think rage riot. What are they trying to tell me?

Ain't whitey's grandchildren's fault. It's your attitude. It's a black thing.

I'm Black.

*That's all you have to say about yourself? There are many different kinds of people that are members of FR. FReepers are very different. You sound a bit angry and maybe need to take a deep breath. Say a bit more about yourself other than that you're black. I am sure you do not appreciate someone calling you nigger anymore than a black conservative being called 'hankerchief head negro'. You have not met mhking then, and trublackman.

Asians have faced discrimination, been the target of exclusionary immigration laws, social alienation and separation at least as great as blacks and have a higher per capita income than whites do. Caribbean and African(real african) blacks also achieve at a higher level and earn more income.

Explain that.

I'll say this, the black middle class has continued to grow, and blacks in general have a higher GDP than entire countries. So, it's not all hopeless, but your attitude certainly doesn't help, "brutha."

My grandfather became a top attorney in DC, despite growing up in the days of legal and socially accepted discrimination. Of course, he was born in the West Indies, so maybe that has something to do with it. In any case, don't call us names, be it Uncle Tom or Handkerchief head Negroes.

You won't be around long, it looks like it. Too bad, maybe if you presented your thoughts in a rational manner you could challenge some here to examine some of the realities of America that they don't get to see.

"You and the "handkerchief head" negroes beleive the "playing field is level"?"

K. No. We believe it should be. we are NOT racists such as those who believe black people need help. We do NOT believe in affirmative action for ANYBODY!! And, As Walter Williams mentions in his article, Washington DC spends more money on public schools per student than almost ALL districts in the U.S. of A., so your "where money is spent" arguement is pure bullshit. And, Even, as Walter writes also, even Frederick Douglas, a "self made man" if there ever was one, just wanted equal opportunity, NOT presents. Your wonderful affirmative action has been going on for years, and things HAVE changed. Education costs more and is WORSE for both black and whites, and ALL students in public schools. And, I have NEVER blamed the "parents". I know that parents aren't running schools. TEACHERS AND PRINCIPALS ARE!!! And, they suck!! Peace and love, George.

You people still forget the effect living in this white socety has on Black people.

You must take great comfort in the fact that 90% of the population of this planet is NOT WHITE. Oh, and by the way:

First: we live in America, a blatantly white racist society, where non whites have suffered and continue to suffer injustices by whites and the laws that govern.

Which laws?

You seem to forget the climate that still exists for particularly Black, and many non-white people in regard to any endeavor of achievement, even White women:

White women? Are you insane? I'm a white woman and NO ONE has ever stood in the way of my achieving anything I want to achieve. I and my priorities are the only things that limit me.

Welcome to Free Republic. Hopefully you've come to FR to learn and engage.

Yes, there is approximately 0.00000001% Kluxers here (and I can name them). I often ask others not to paint us all with the same broad brush. Now I'm asking the same of you.

BTW, I'm black, too. Ya heard, my weeble?

KAY ~ FNP

Any questions?

The best educational efforts are made where the money is spent and typically non-white eduactional districts don't get the educational attention ($) white districts get, regardless of the parents efforts.

You know I have heard this so much that for a split second now I might buy into it. I dont buy into the $~chance because I went to a poor school which was mostly minority, I than went to a good High-School (one you had to take an exam to get into) with a mix of 55White, 40Black and 5other. I actually had a Black kid in this school tell me I have had it easier than him (to explain the fact I had a Higher SAT score) despite the fact we went to the same grade school and highschool. This same kid turned around and made fun of someone who was 'acting too white'. The kid who was acting white is now a computer graphics artist and making good $ in a secure job.

You want to fix Black America ditch the sob story and fix the culture of hating 'uncle toms', or Oreos (Black on the outside white on the inside). More federal money is spent in DC per kid than anywhere else in the nation and the schools are pretty much as bad as they can get.

There is no reason that a young African American cant succeede if his parent push him and dont rely on the public education system that has doomed the current Balck generation.

Finally as for black being held back because of race and hatred explain Asian success? The difference is culture, I am getting married to an Asian whos fathers only request of me was that I see to it she gets a degree (despite the fact I make enough to care for her and we plan to homeschool). There is a respect for education in their society which has led them to get their kids in the top earners spot in America..