[capitan_refugio]

"Perpetual union" was not in the Constitution, but the phrase "to ourselves and our posterity" is in the Preamble. The desire and sense of lasting permanency is there.

[Arkinsaw]

"Perpetual union" was not in the Constitution, but the phrase "to ourselves and our posterity" is in the Preamble. The desire and sense of lasting permanency is there.

If it said, "to ourselves and our posterity regardless of whether they want it, desire it, or if it has been twisted and abused by the 9th Circuit" then I might think that sentiment was there. In reality, our founders real sentiment was that we should have the government that we choose. They were pretty strong believers in self-determination.

[stand watie]

according to Dr. Walter Williams, NO state would have ratified the Constitution if they had believed that secession would be punished at the point of a bayonet.

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