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"I SAW [Mel Gibson's] THE PASSION" [the attacks are pretty much demonic]
Act One: Writing for Hollywood | 6/26/03 | Barbara Nicolosi

Posted on 06/26/2003 7:02:56 PM PDT by Polycarp

I SAW THE PASSION

Barbara Nicolosi

6/26/03

So I was at a private screening at Icon Productions yesterday, and got to see a rough cut of The Passion. There were about twelve people in the room, including Mel Gibson, his producing partner Steve and four or five other Icon staffers. After the screening, we talked to Mel and friends for about an hour. (As cool as that was, the quality of the film was such that the celebrity stuff was completely gone from the moment. I can't explain it really, except that it would be like standing in the Sistine Chapel next to, well, someone like Mel Gibson. Great art is a great leveler....) The rough cut we saw obviously didn't have the final score or special effects, and there were many more sub-titles than they will have in the finished film.

So, here's my take...

The Passion is a stunning work of art. It is a devout, act of worship from Mel and his collaborators - in the way that Handel's Messiah and Notre Dame were artistic acts of worship in previous times.

Let's get the controversy out of the way right at the top. The film is faithful to the Gospel, particularly St. John. It is no more anti-Semitic than is the Gospel. There are at least two members of the Sanhedrin who come forward to protest on Jesus' behalf during the sham trial. The Romans are just as guilty of cruelty and hatred against Jesus in the film. And best of all is a final look right into the camera of Mary, holding her dead Son. She is looking at all of us with a kind of , "Look what you've done"/This is for you" expression. A cinematic Pieta worthy of Michelangelo.

Having seen the film now, I can only marvel that the attacks are pretty much demonic. Hopefully, the devil will end up spitefully biting his own tail on this one-- as he does in The Passion by inciting on the executioners of Christ, and thus being complicit in his own ultimate defeat. The Passion is high art. It is the greatest movie about Jesus ever made. In the discussion following the film, Mel and co. were asking us how mainstream theater audiences would react to the film. I told them, "Who cares? What you have here is so much more than just a product to sell. It will live forever, regardless of whether it is a commercial success for you or not."

For those of us who love Jesus, The Passion is devastating to watch. It is so good, I almost couldn't stand it. There is one moment on the way of the cross sequence, in which the whole tragedy unfolding devolves into a vicious riot of hatred between Romans and Jews with the Savior on the ground in the middle of it getting it from both sides. It was so frenzied and terrible, I wanted to run from the room. But then, the film again finds Mary, Jesus's Mother on the sidelines, and her presence gets us through it. Kind of like how Mary's presence helped Jesus get through it, it seemed to me.

The film is lovingly Marian. Mary is perfectly portrayed here. She is contrasted repeatedly with the really super creepy Satan character, who is also a woman (something for the feminist theologians here? heh heh...).

The film is strongly Eucharistic. There is a beautiful juxtaposition of images that cuts from the stripping on Calvary to the unwrapping of the bread to be used at the last Supper. Fabulous stuff.

Every Christian needs to see this film at least once. Just to remember, in our current comfort zones while evil is closing in, the price that was paid for us. On my way home from the screening, I found myself praying in the car, "Jesus, I'm so sorry, I forgot..." How many films have led you to compunction lately? The Passion is a miracle.


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To: Hermann the Cherusker
John 19.25-30. Blessed Mary was at the foot of the cross throughout the crucifixion. Are you going to tell me Christ's own mother would not have waited for Him to be brought down to hold His Body and tell Him goodbye? See also Luke 23.50-56, Mark 15.42-47, and Matthew 27.57-61, where it is said Mary and Mary Magdalene helped Joseph of Arimathea bury Jesus. You Protestants should REALLY try reading your Bibles sometime, instead of reading your prejudices. The ignorance and disdain I constantly see displayed about Blessed Mary is appalling!

Whew, lots of strawman false arguments you have there. Yep, there were three Mary's there at the cross, according to John, one being the mother of Jesus. I never claimed otherwise. You need to read my post and the biblical passages you cite again, I still can't find where Mary cradled her dead son in any of them, nor did I read of the "really super creepy Satan character, who is also a woman."

I belive that in your zelous worship of Mary (whom I agree was blessed)you are unfairly criticising my desire for accuracy concerning the biblical account of Jesus.

81 posted on 06/26/2003 8:30:43 PM PDT by Enlightiator
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To: Callahan
I'm not a fan of Pat Robertson, either.
82 posted on 06/26/2003 8:32:28 PM PDT by RichardW
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To: Dan from Michigan
"Unfortunatly, I have experience is some of the most ugly type of politics there is. Internal organizational politics. "

Yeah, well, it always seems worse in church too. Because you don't expect to find unethical acts and tempers. Nevertheless they are just people.

Sometimes you might need a break. But that's why I suggested ignoring it for now and seeking out discipleship training. That will equip you to deal with it better.

83 posted on 06/26/2003 8:35:51 PM PDT by DannyTN (Note left on my door by a pack of neighborhood dogs.)
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To: AD from SpringBay
When beliefs become so internalized and so unpolite in common discussion - that we feel we must be personal and private about them, that we dare not bring them to any public discussion, those same beliefs become, for a society, meaningless.

I agree to a point. My parents were old enough to be my grandparents when I was born. My father, having been in the Army and then a postal worker, was more attuned to society in general, while my mother chose to hide behind attitudes that were learned back when Irish Catholicsm was treated harshly and with predjudice. I am very disappointed with the Catholic Church. I no longer attend. The only thing I can do is do my best to keep to the Ten Commandments and The Golden Rule.

I have a lot of things on my plate right now; how I worship God is indeed my personal business...

84 posted on 06/26/2003 8:36:16 PM PDT by TheSpottedOwl (America...love it or leave it. Canada is due north-Mexico is directly south...start walking.)
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To: Maximilian
You know, I think I will have to take a box of Kleenax with me to the theater.
Hopefully, I will have to share it with those around me.
85 posted on 06/26/2003 8:36:44 PM PDT by Slyfox
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To: DannyTN
I'll look into it.

86 posted on 06/26/2003 8:39:42 PM PDT by Dan from Michigan ("Say Hey! Hey! Damn Yankee!")
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To: Skywalk
Then again, Jogn may have been the first Gospel. Some scholars think so. Of course, what we read may be only the final version of the story. Try Jesus of Nazareth, King of the Jews: A Jewish Life and the Emergence of Christianity by Paula Fredericksen. Professor Fredericksen relies heavily on John/
87 posted on 06/26/2003 8:40:04 PM PDT by RobbyS
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To: Imal
LOL!!
88 posted on 06/26/2003 8:40:15 PM PDT by what's up
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To: Imal
ROFL! Wonderfully done humor, I shall go back and read, starting with 38a...
89 posted on 06/26/2003 8:40:38 PM PDT by Enlightiator
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To: Slyfox
You know, I think I will have to take a box of Kleenax with me to the theater

Good idea. I'll remember to bring some too.

90 posted on 06/26/2003 8:41:10 PM PDT by katnip
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To: Pyro7480
Those who put the New Testament together lived not so long after the disciples and were in fact linked to the disciples in some ways.

The books which were candidates for inclusion were scrutinized carefully to make sure they were genuinely written by the disciples or those extremely close to the disciples (Mark for example.)

The reason it was so important to have works emanating from the disciples' era was that they had first-hand experience of Jesus and were filled with the Spirit. Because these early men foresaw that a period of heresy was about to begin (with people claiming all sorts of things about Christ), they knew the importance of including works only associated with those near Christ.

The more I learn about the formation of the Bible, the more I know it it trustworthy.

91 posted on 06/26/2003 8:46:52 PM PDT by what's up
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To: All; DPB101
NEVER FORGET


...Praise GOD that...

...LOVE is the Only Reality and...

...GOD is LOVE.



NEVER FORGET
92 posted on 06/26/2003 8:54:45 PM PDT by ALOHA RONNIE (Vet-Battle of IA DRANG-1965 www.LZXRAY.comt)
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To: Skywalk
The Book of John is no more or less true than the remainder of the Bible. The Bible is the inspired Word of God. All of it. When John was written relative to Matthew or Luke, et al, is beyond irreleant to its veracity and holiness.

That said, I want to say to others on this thread:

ISLAM, Satan and the like are the enemy. We---Pentecosts, Catholics, Protestants, Jews---WE are in this together, believers in God, the one, true God. Compared to the other people in this world---the ones seeking to overrun, rape and destroy Jews and Christians---our differences are INDISTINGUISHABLE. In the broad spectrum, we are shoulder-to-shoulder, while the moslems and other nature-worshipping, animal-worshipping, incense-worshipping pagans are a million miles away, ideologically.

I am Southern Baptist, and my disagreements with Catholices and Pentecostals, etc., are minor relative to what we face. Let's first SURVIVE, defeat and destroy the evil enemies armed by Satan, and THEN we can discuss our canonical and theological and scriptural interpretation disagreements.

(And I would like to see all of us stop dissing Pat Robertson, Jerry Falwell, the Pope, rabbis, et al. Western civilization---and civilization itself---is at stake in this battle of good versus the most repugnant evil imaginable, the pagan, heathens out to destroy America (yes, this group includes Democrats, abortionists, etc., as well as the moon-worshipping, boy loving, misogynist mohams.)

93 posted on 06/26/2003 8:58:09 PM PDT by gg188
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To: Enlightiator
The Gospel of John explicitly says that if all that Jesus did were written down, the world could not contain the books. (John 21.25).

Maybe one day, you can grasp the implications of that regarding his life and his interactions with others. The Gospels do not record every little thing that happened in his life. It records certain broad events and important discourses. This is why it passes over in near total silence his life from Age 1 to 30. There would also be little need to say that His Mother showed sorrow over His death. What Mother would not feel sorrowful watching her bloved son die in agony on the Cross?

I belive that in your zelous worship of Mary (whom I agree was blessed)you are unfairly criticising my desire for accuracy concerning the biblical account of Jesus.

Who cares about your desires? If you desire an "accurate" film, go make it. Based on the Bible accounts, it should take about 10 minutes total to film, since the Bible gives a broad outline, not an excruciatingly detailed summary of all that transpired. Your remark is uneducated and narrowminded. Do you truly think Jesus and Co. did nothing except what is recorded in the Bible?

94 posted on 06/26/2003 9:00:34 PM PDT by Hermann the Cherusker
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To: what's up
The reason it was so important to have works emanating from the disciples' era was that they had first-hand experience of Jesus and were filled with the Spirit.

Well, St. Luke did not have first-hand knowledge of Jesus. But he did meet (gasp!) Mary.

95 posted on 06/26/2003 9:00:51 PM PDT by cyncooper
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To: cyncooper
That's why I mentioned that each contributor had either first-hand experience of Christ or someone close to him. Paul considered himself equal to a disciple because of his powerful encounter with the Lord. Luke was extremely close to Paul...thus he too qualifies.

Yes, I know Luke most likely met Mary. If it weren't for his account, Mary would be even less of a figure than she is in the whole scope of the Bible.

96 posted on 06/26/2003 9:05:17 PM PDT by what's up
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To: Cordova Belle; homeschool mama; Brad's Gramma
Methinks you'll want to take a look at this thread.
97 posted on 06/26/2003 9:05:44 PM PDT by Fawnn (I think therefore I'm halfway there....)
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To: Polycarp
I can hardly wait to see this. Anticipation!
98 posted on 06/26/2003 9:07:39 PM PDT by Libertina (FR - roaches check in, but they don't check out....)
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To: Polycarp
Bump for later reading
99 posted on 06/26/2003 9:15:21 PM PDT by Alex Murphy (Athanasius contra mundum!)
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To: Polycarp
He's certainly raising our hopes!

Mel Gibson bump.
100 posted on 06/26/2003 9:17:26 PM PDT by headsonpikes
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