[Antoninus]

2) Jefferson was often quite the hypocrite. (he owned people for example)

Way to bash a Founding Father when he doesn't agree with you. Thank you! Personally, I look at Jefferson as more a product of his time and less as a hypocrite.

Not to put too fine a point on it, but if you took your exact argument on the buggery issue that you're attempting to make today and tried to make it 50, 100, 150, 200 years ago, people would have laughed at you or called you a pervert. The only thing that makes this argument even possible is the sexual revolution of the 1960s. I know less and less people who think that this radical shift was a good thing.

To my mind, this whole burst of libertinism is the direct result of this 1960s crowd coming into power in all levels of society. However, the generation following them doesn't buy into that garbage to the same extent-- and those that do are generally second-rate intellects. Therefore, enjoy your victory for the moment. It won't last long.

[OWK]

Way to bash a Founding Father when he doesn't agree with you.

How is the admission that Jefferson's ownership of human beings cast confusion on his admittedly profound observations "bashing"?

Spare me the grade school stuff.