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To: motexva
Yes, please do look up the "relevant case law," because once again you're treading into territory that I don't think you're well acquainted with.

And don't get your feathers all ruffled about being told your father is doing something illegal -- you're the one who introduced the personal element into the argument. You can't do that and then expect everyone to sit around and pay some kind of deference just because he's your dear ol' dad.

He's making an unauthorized copy of a copyrighted work. That is illegal. It doesn't matter how harmless you think it is, or how cute that Pops sits around on the computer enjoying his favorite Bach.

Is any copyright holder going to bother with him? Likely not. It doesn't mean what he's doing is right or legal.
139 posted on 06/25/2003 9:05:38 PM PDT by wizzler
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To: wizzler
I guess I will have to look up the relevent case law, because it's clear to me that you are the one who is completely unfamiliar with it. Because no one seriously argues that making one copy for personal use, or even making a copy for a friend (as long as no money changes hands) is an an actionable copyright infringement! If you distributed hundreds, sure, you might have a case, and I think RIAA has a case against the p2p-ers. These standards are well-established, for all media, from print to video to audio!

Is it illegal to tape a show with your VCR?

Is it illegal to post an article on FR?

Is it illegal to make a copy of a song or songs from a CD for friend, or to listen to in your tape stereo in your car?

No wizzler, it's not! Your absolutist position, shared by RIAA, has no basis in the case law that governs copyright in this country!

Like I said - they have a case against the p2p sharers, at least as near as I can tell they do. But your assertions are wrong, and you are apparently incapable of citing the relevent case law. But let me tell you wizzler, no matter your armchair opinion, the lawyers arguing both sides of this case are going to cite that law, and the judge is going to look to it for guidance. I suspect RIAA's absolutist position will carry little weight with them as they seek to navigate a new course through it. RIAA may win against the most abusive file sharers, but this claptrap you're trying to argue here has absolutely no basis in copyright law!
150 posted on 06/25/2003 9:15:23 PM PDT by motexva
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