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Everyone has their secret agenda -- and its not always to be good of their community. Invididual freedom's and rights taken to the other extreme is chaos and anarchy. I agree with the other gentleman, its like taking a test for a driver's license -- you dont just take everyone's word. We are, if you do not know this by now, a nation of laws. Without them, total chaos and self interests impose on the rights of others. Take the test.

"...we are a nation of laws..."

However, this and thousands of other things we are instructed to do is policy, with rules dreamed up and controlled by unelected bureaucrats.

There are several thousand too many laws, today, followed by hundreds of thousands of policy rules, local statutes, etc.

I agree with the poster who said let them get privately tested.

Having taken part in standardized school testing, I can say that it varies a lot. I once taught for an unprincipled principal who rammed the test through in one day instead of two morning sessions. By lunch, the kids were just marking answers, not even reading the questions because they were tired. Other places, it has been taken seriously and administered properly. After all this, I would not trust the Waltham, Mass. testing.

vaudine

We are, if you do not know this by now, a nation of laws. Without them, total chaos and self interests impose on the rights of others.

So your saying, if it were not for laws, you would impose on the rights of others and act in ways that would create chaos. Is, that right?

If you are not saying this, how do you assume this will automatically happen? Oh, I get it. You would not presume to step on anyone else's rights and create chaos, even if there were no laws, but others would. Is that right?

As for, everyone has their secret agenda, we appreciate the warning. (You do speak for yourself.)

Hank

"We are, if you do not know this by now, a nation of laws."

You need to change your handle to your real name: Rip Van Winkle

its like taking a test for a driver's license -- you dont just take everyone's word. ... Take the test.

Bwaaahahahahahahaaa! It's hilarious to me that you think the government is the final arbitor of education!! It is neither the right nor the responsibility of government to oversee the 'education' of children. Society has no right to test my or your children to see if they are educated to 'government standards', much less to take away perfectly happy children from a loving home because they will not submit the whim of some bureaucrat.

The failure of government schools is overwhelming. I know, I went to public school on the south side of Chicago. Thank God my parents provided me with what little time they could to educate me, and they also instilled in me a desire to learn. I learned despite public school, not because of it.

We are, if you do not know this by now, a nation of laws. Without them, total chaos and self interests impose on the rights of others.

The genius freedom philosophers that began this country came from 'nations of laws'. The rights of the individual are what make this country great, not the fact that assinine, ivory tower control freaks pass volume upon volume of laws every year. This country's value is 'Free'dom, not 'Law'dom.

Oh, and btw, laws can be an instrument to impose "chaos and self-interest" as well. Or are you that naive?

I agree with the other gentleman, its like taking a test for a driver's license --

Oh yeah, that works real well. No one with a state issued drivers lisence ever drives drunk or gets into a high speed chase to avoid a DUI etc. If one is a competent driver and thus never causes an accident or breaks the traffic laws why should they prove their ability to the state? Haven't they already demonstrated it?

Lisence and create a data base on people who screw up. Driving should be a right until you mess up just like owning a firearm. The right is limited or completely curtailed in proportion to how much you abuse it. Abuse either one too much and you lose your right to walk free. As it is lisenced drivers are working on their fourth, fifth, sixth DUI's.

I don't get the logic at play here. You're afraid that homeschooled kids will end up 'pig stupid' unless the state tests them. What is the graduation rate of public schooled kids? What are the consequences to the state for kids who fail? Oh yeah, higher budgets. What is it the state is teaching that's producing this abundance of societal paragons?

When the state demands testing of homeschoolers they should enroll in public school and then drop out. What does the state ever do about drop outs?

passing a drivers test does NOT mean you are a good driver. just look around you at all the "licensed" drivers out there that can drive worth spit. The girl was right, their tests wont measure intelligence/competence.....

and by the way, Sarah, please just go away.....

So you believe it is the job of the state to ensure that children are "educated" by the state's standards, whether parents like it or not?