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June 15 1215 King John signs Magna Carta at Runnymede, England
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Posted on 06/15/2003 6:27:59 AM PDT by Valin

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1 posted on 06/15/2003 6:28:00 AM PDT by Valin
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To: Valin
Bump!!!
2 posted on 06/15/2003 6:32:47 AM PDT by TomServo (Free Illbay!!)
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To: hellinahandcart
Ping for read.
4 posted on 06/15/2003 6:51:52 AM PDT by sauropod (Mo Dowd is a Stepford Wife Wanna-be. She wanted to be a Douglas Wife...)
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To: Valin; hellinahandcart; Carry_Okie
"Tell me again, Sir Bedevere, how you make ship sails out of lambs bladders."
5 posted on 06/15/2003 6:54:26 AM PDT by sauropod (Mo Dowd is a Stepford Wife Wanna-be. She wanted to be a Douglas Wife...)
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To: notorious vrc
No "thees' and "thous"?

As it was originally written in Latin, it would be silly to translate it into faux Ye Olde Englishe.

6 posted on 06/15/2003 7:00:48 AM PDT by Oztrich Boy ("O tempora! O mores!")
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To: Valin
Parliment repealed the last provisions of the Great Charter" circa the 1970's.
7 posted on 06/15/2003 7:03:40 AM PDT by AEMILIUS PAULUS (Further, the statement assumed)
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To: Valin
marking for later reading
8 posted on 06/15/2003 7:13:09 AM PDT by 68skylark
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To: Valin
BUMP! for one of the seminal documents of the ages, rivaling for its own time and in its own way our own Constitution. Considering the time in which they were conceived, the concepts contained therein are analogous to discovering a Rolex Oyster watch in a sealed Egyptian tomb. Not a shabby feat for a treatise originally designed only to quiet rebellious nobles.

(And, thanks for the great translation. The eye tires quickly trying to read all those "thous.")

9 posted on 06/15/2003 7:19:04 AM PDT by strela ("Have Word Processor, Will Travel" reads the card of a man ...)
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To: strela
So the Magna Carta was signed 1215? I assume that's England time. Oh no!!! I missed it by three hours....
10 posted on 06/15/2003 7:23:38 AM PDT by calvin sun ("Mr. Gorbachev, TEAR DOWN THIS WALL")
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To: strela
Of course, there are clunkers like this one contained therein:

54. No one shall be arrested or imprisoned upon the appeal of a woman, for the death of any other than her husband.

Nobody's perfect ...

11 posted on 06/15/2003 7:24:01 AM PDT by strela ("Have Word Processor, Will Travel" reads the card of a man ...)
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To: Valin
Bump!!!!!!!!!!

Along with THE DECLARATION OF INDEPEDENCE the MAGNA CARTA is one of the most important documents of Western Civilization.

My understanding is that there are only 4 copies known to exist, one of which was bought by Ross Perot and donated to the US. It was on display (under sealed glass and an inert gas) along with The Declaration the last time I was in DC.

12 posted on 06/15/2003 7:24:07 AM PDT by DoctorMichael (Damn it Jim, I'm a Conservative, NOT a Republican!)
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To: calvin sun
Don't you just hate it when that happens? ;)
13 posted on 06/15/2003 7:24:41 AM PDT by strela ("Have Word Processor, Will Travel" reads the card of a man ...)
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To: Prof Engineer
ping
14 posted on 06/15/2003 7:30:04 AM PDT by msdrby (I do believe the cheese slid off his cracker! - The Green Mile)
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To: sauropod
Thanks for the ping. I've never read it.
15 posted on 06/15/2003 7:30:05 AM PDT by Carry_Okie (The environment is too complex and too important to be managed by politics.)
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To: notorious vrc
Because you a apparently a purist
http://www.bl.uk/diglib/magna-carta/magna_main.html

You do of course realise that it's written in latin.
16 posted on 06/15/2003 7:34:55 AM PDT by Valin (Age and deceit beat youth and skill)
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To: Valin
We can't read this enough.
17 posted on 06/15/2003 9:48:29 AM PDT by hottomale
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To: notorious vrc; strela
No "thees' and "thous"? Is this the NIV version of the Magna Carta?

There would have been no place for "thees" and "thous" in the Magna Carta. "Thee" and "thou" were singular and familiar; "ye" and "you" were the plural or formal and respectful forms. "Thee" was used to address family and close friends, children, and persons of inferior social position. To address anyone else as "thee" was an insult.

Re the custom of addressing God as "thee" when praying (as my dear grandfather did), I assume the original intent not specifically to show respect (or "ye" might have been used), but rather, close kinship and endearment.

18 posted on 06/15/2003 11:38:16 AM PDT by solzhenitsyn ("Live Not By Lies")
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To: Valin
Valin, thank you for posting this magnificent document. It's the first time I've read it in full. How wonderful is our inheritance!
19 posted on 06/15/2003 11:45:45 AM PDT by solzhenitsyn ("Live Not By Lies")
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