[OldFriend]

I do remember comments about one man being ostracized by his fellow hostages for collaborating. These comments were made on the day they were being released and the media showed him sitting alone in a holding room............I don't remember his name but can see his face now, rather thin and smoking a cigarette.......

[Norse]

How many wanna bet that the turncoat was either a) a woman b) a left wing pencil neck

[DonQ]

The person you're thinking of is Joseph Subic, a Marine sergeant, who was taken hostage (at that time he was 23 years old). The Pentagon refused to give him the Meritorious Service Medal that it awarded to the other servicemen who were hostages because other hostages accused Subic of having told the Iranians who the intelligence officers were, gave them secret codes, and told them about the embassy's secret code room.

Army Col. Charles W. Scott said he was tortured for days by the Iranians because "immediately after the takeover Subic accompanied his captors, introducing each hostage and identifying areas of expertise each had"; and specifically that Scott spoke Farsi and had a long career in Iran.

Another ex-hostage, Col. Leland Holland, says that Subic also revealed to the Iranians the secret tapping code that the hostages were using to communicate with each other while they were kept in separate rooms. (UPI, 1/20/85)

The Army also noted that Subic had appeared on a film made by the Iranians in which he criticized US policy in Iran. (AP, 11/4/89).

In 1989, Subic was a law enforcement office with the Florida State Dept of Agriculture.

Shortly after being returned to the US, the Pentagon reported that administrative action against Subic was being considered -- ranging from a reprimand to denial of re-enlistment; I do not know if anything was actually done.

[xarmydog]

I have always been a good natured person concerning the Corps rivalry between Army grunts and Marines.I felt it was a good thing to have,making everyone try harder to excel.I have met many Marines,and this man is no Marine.As hard as it is to admit,my life was saved by a Marine.Screw him,and I have no clue as to why he is still in uniform.I still have one middle finger left.

[PISANO]

1 turncoat out of 444 civilian hostages puts to SHAME the 15 out of 15 MILITARY Brits who groveled at their captors feet!!

What a difference 27 years makes!!!

[82dPathfinder]

I served with Subic in the Army. Actually, I went to pathfinder school with him. I do not say this lightly, he was embarrassment to the 82nd Airborne. He was wimpy and slimy.

We had a few troops from the elite 82nd Pathfinder Platoon and Subic from the division admin company. He was a pencil pusher as someone mentioned and unfortunately, he was not a Marine.

The Army sent him to Ft. Benning as he was getting ready for his next tour to serve in the US embassy in Iran. We speculated it was to give the pogue some badges that might give him more credibility.

He was treated like one of the foreign officers and given a free pass. He cried when he was on the rappel tower and sniveled his way to the bottom. He couldn’t keep up in the field. Soldiers from the other units taunted the rest of us from the 82nd. It was actually funny.