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To: Jim Robinson
Hey Jim,

While I believe we share the same goal, I have to disagree that another prominent political party is beyond hope. If we attempt to make the Democrats irrelevant by voting them all out, doesn’t conservative theory demand we offer an alternative?

My self oppressed, creative liberal side, suggests the fastest way to shift the power structure back in a direction towards what the Founding Fathers had in mind Is for President Bush to resign from the Republican Party and try to strengthen an existing conservative third party. If such action ever had a chance of bringing our Nation back to Libertarian vs Constitutional debate this moment in our Nations History offers the best opportunity.

My realistic conservative side tells me this will never happen and President Bush will leave the dance at the White House with those that brung him.

We should recognize that if Democrats become irrelevant another party will emerge to replace them. Conservatives should consider if they want to allow the Libertarians who are currently the strongest third party to be the only choice or offer another alternative.

This is where I lean to the Constitution Party, though they would never embrace President Bush as their candidate. Formally the Tax Payers Party and recognized for the last 3 years under its current name. They are strong on conservative issues, Pro Life, Pro 2nd amendment, Property Rights, States Sovereignty, National Sovereignty, Immigration, and Taxes. The most affective weapon in conservative activism is the Constitution for the United States of America and therefore a natural alternative for Conservatives in regional and congressional elections.

Unfortunately The Constitution Party is often recognized as extremist, because of their Pro Life, Pro Gun, anti-U.N. positions and their procedural objections to the war in Iraq and most of the other recent U.S. conflicts.

The Constitutionist objections to war are not part of the Peace Movement but rather procedural, they object to vague language that allows the Senate to claim deniability if the outcome becomes objectionable to the People. They object that this allows for the possibility of “Foreign Entanglements” which can change from administration to administration. These are conservative issues and if we truly want to shift our Nation’s direction back to what the Founding Fathers had in mind, it would be helpful to allow more relevance to these discussions.

I’m a Constitutionalist who supported the war in Iraq, even though I feel the Senate could have and should have performed better in their duties declaring war. Many Constitutionalists believe what they sent the President was too vague and came up short of a full Declaration of War.

This is where the Constitutionalists were drowned out on the Debate their issue was hijacked by the Socialist Peace Movement. The Lame Stream Media gave unbalanced relevance to a Socialist Movement that never had a voice in the founding of our Nation. The Socialists mocked the credibility of our Constitution and the Media ignored the voice of Conservatives who were legitimately concerned about the issue.

Republicans could help by dismissing Democratic Policies and recognizing Constitutional Debates. They could openly criticize Democratic Policies as hypocrisy and unconstitutional and at the same time engage open debate on constitutional issues of active legislation with conservative third parties.

What often happens is the opposite Democrats dismiss the Conservative Constitutional issues, ignoring the interests of the people and allow socialist third parties in the debate who often end up dictating terms of policy. We know this would never be allowed, if the Senate were appointed by States Legislatures and not the populace, property owners would have an equal voice in Government policy especially where the environment and U.N. Treaties are involved.

As the populace becomes more concerned with government policy because of the War on Terrorism and the threat to their personal security, Republicans have a prime time opportunity to encourage more Constitutional debate and point out the irrelevance of the socialist ideals Democrats embrace. They could bring in Conservative third parties to debate the Constitutional issues and the Republicans can debate from the position they would surrender if the Democrats were allowed legitimacy.

If there is ever going to be a time to accomplish such goals, when will we have a better opportunity then now, and if conservatives offer an alternative to the Democrats and Republicans couldn’t that force the pendulum to swing towards freedom?

Democrats have successfully used third parties to promote their agenda through the Black Caucus and Environmentalists. If Republicans embraced more participation by conservative third parties, and consistently approached issues from constitutional positions, it would add credibility and strength to conservative issues.

I suspect this will always be a fundamental difference between our views but I hope you respect that it is an alternative that deserves consideration.

As a participant in conservative activism, the divide I find between Constitutionalists, Republicans and other Conservatives on common issues purely because of ideology embarrassing and counter productive. Most of the time the division is among the power structure while the individuals embrace each others similarities.
107 posted on 06/10/2003 10:46:13 AM PDT by Fearless Flyers
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To: Fearless Flyers
While I agree with some of what you said, you are wrong about the Constitution Party. The are an inert party with no opinions on anything of importance that I have been able to find. They very seldom update their website. They have never answered any email that I have sent requesting information or ntheir standing on specific topics.

I agreee with Jim that we should maintain a strong Republican presence in congress and the Senate and work towards establishing a strong 3rd party to replace the DemonRats Party.

Liberterians are WAA WAA copouts who if they can't get what they want right away they won't play at all.
259 posted on 06/11/2003 11:27:29 AM PDT by nanook (Thomas Jefferson had it right.)
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