Posted on 06/08/2003 9:34:51 PM PDT by yonif
Poland has voted overwhelmingly Saturday and Sunday to join the European Union. Early results show eight out of 10 Poles voted for EU membership.
Polish President Alexander Kwasniewski tells a cheering crowd at the presidential palace, the vote represents what he called Poland's return to Europe. He spoke shortly after early results made it clear more than 50 percent of voters -- the minimum required to make the ballot legally valid -- turned out to vote.
Local television also reported more than 80 percent of the voters said "Tak" -- the Polish for "Yes" -- to the ballot question: "Do you express your consent for the Republic of Poland to join the European Union?"
The outcome came as a major boost for embattled Prime Minister Leszek Miller, whose government saw its popularity decline in the wake of corruption scandals and widespread anger over high unemployment. Mr. Miller and other political leaders campaigned heavily for membership, which they believe will help Poland to overcome a legacy of 40 years of communist rule that ended in 1989.
Speaking to a pro-EU crowd, Mr. Miller made clear his country still faces major challenges. "We are returning to Europe with the tremendous potential of the Polish people." He cautions, however, that Poland has a hard road ahead in trying to bring its economy up to EU levels.
With nearly 40 million people, Poland will become the largest of the 10 candidate countries vying to join the 15-nation bloc next year. It is expected to hold voting power equal to Spain's and behind only Great Britain, Germany, France and Italy.
With most Poles supporting EU membership, the only question before the two-day referendum was whether enough voters would bother to vote. The government even asked European leaders, including British Prime Minister Tony Blair and German Chancellor Gerhard Schroeder, to encourage Poles to cast their ballots.
Polish-born Pope John Paul II himself went out of his way to encourage mainly Catholic Poland to seize this historic opportunity and go out and vote. As he put it, "the Church in Europe needs the Polish peoples' witness to the faith."
News about the outcome of Poland's referendum is expected to be welcomed in the Czech Republic, which will vote on EU-membership next week, followed by the Baltic states of Latvia and Estonia in September.
Hungary, Slovakia, Slovenia, Malta and Lithuania have already approved entry into the European Union. Cyprus is the only candidate country that does not intend to hold a referendum on the issue.
Hopefully, you could also get a free trade pact with the US in the near future, along with Britain, Spain, and Italy. That would be good.
Hopefully, you could also get a free trade pact with the US in the near future, along with Britain, Spain, and Italy. That would be good.
Don't take this wrong but who says we are supposed to offer you anything?
I love the Poles and I think they are one of our greatest allies.
Also, I believe that Poland can be a great influence in the EU.
My prayes to you and your great nation.
This from the article: "It is expected to hold voting power equal to Spain's and behind only Great Britain, Germany, France and Italy."
It would appear that voting power is population/GDP related. If it were truely a USSR style slavemaster, the UK would never have anything to do with it.
Actually, if we take a closer look at the map of Europe, we'll see that after the EU expansion, Poland (if it stays outside) will be a hole between the EU from one side and Russia, Belarus and Ukraine from the other. It's a dramatic choice for us. It's not a choice: to gain or lose. It's a choice between losing more and losing much much more
Do you HONESTLY believe that Germany will be attacking Poland again? Or the Ukraine or Russia? This is just not going to happen for
a) There is nothing to gain in Poland. True, there are territories which would be rightfully German (and there are territories in Russia/Ukraine which would be rightfully Polish - it is really a joke that after WW2 Poland had to give much of its territory to Russia!), but I think it is final and good that these territories are Polish today. After all, we have trouble with paying for the former DDR, what would we want with more communist ruined country (I am not blaming Poland for the ruined country).
b) Any attacker would face such a world wide opposition it was sheer suicide - Poland being in the EU give or take.
The reason you (and many others) are in the EU is money - and it is largely Germany´s money - even today with our economy wrecked we pay lots of money into EU funds. Have you ANY idea how much money Germany has paid to other EU countries so far???
All the already negotiated benefits put together are actually less than the profits from purchasing 48 U.S. F-16s jet fighters with its off-set program
Ah, another fine example. These jets were bought mainly with money the EU promised you and you pissed of a lot of Europeans (not only French and Germans, but British and Spanish as well), by buying F-16s instead of European products.
The EU especially Germany and France appears to us as Sodom and Gomorrah with its abortion, euthanasia and pro-gay rights
Where are your facts? There is no "euthanasia" in Germany (source???). Which gay rights are you referring to? I am not willing to discuss abortion here other than saying that under certain circumstances abortion should be allowed. We share about the same laws on abortion and gay rights than the US - does this make the US Sodom and Gomorrah in your equation?
We are Christians and we don't want to have prostitution districts in our cities as it is in Hamburg, Berlin or Paris. No Berliner Jebenstrasse in Poland forever and ever!!! Fortunately, we have been free from this so far. How long? Time will tell, but this is that something we hate about the EU! Moral dirt! Rotten morality! Child pornography! Pedophilia scandals
Now this is where your ranting becomes hard to bear. Every country has prostitution districts (while I don´t care for them, it is something you can´t help). You have been free of this? LMAO! There are whole highways in Poland right after the German-Polish border called whore-highways, were Polish whores sell themselves to rich westerners. Most of the whores in German brothels come from former Eastern European countries, most of them from Czech Republic or Poland. Get real man!
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