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The Hillary Divide by Andrew Sullivan
The Sunday Times | June 7, 2003 | Andrew Sullivan

Posted on 06/08/2003 8:49:55 AM PDT by COUNTrecount

The Hillary Divide

The Gulf in American Politics

It didn't even take a book. It merely took a tiny sliver of a book leak to send Washington into a tailspin of recriminations, accusations and spin. Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton's memoirs - already described as "memeroids" by one of her more tenacious enemies - aren't due to be released until tomorrow. But someone somewhere - presumably someone with an axe to grind - leaked some critical details to the Associated Press, and all hell broke loose. It tells you all that you really need to know about the former president's wife that even now, even after September 11, even after two and a half years of a Bush presidency, people still care about HRC. She polarizes America in ways not seen since Nixon. And her obvious intent to make it back to the White House in her own right has the potential to turn America's already fractious polity into something bordering on civil war.

This time, the fuse was the leaked spin that the former First Lady only found out about her husband's adultery with Monica Lewinsky the day before Clinton's civil deposition. Until then, we are asked to believe, she had no idea that her husband would ever have contemplated an illicit sexual liaison with a young intern. The very idea was a product of the "vast right-wing conspiracy" for which she blamed almost every failing of her husband's presidency. "For me, the Lewinsky imbroglio seemed like just another vicious scandal manufactured by political opponents," she writes. And then that dreadful morning, she found out the awful truth: Gulping for air, I started crying and yelling at him, 'What do you mean? What are you saying? Why did you lie to me?' I was furious and getting more so by the second. He just stood there saying over and over again, 'I'm sorry. I'm so sorry. I was trying to protect you and Chelsea.' In almost any other instance of a spouse being told of her husband's adultery, there would be nothing but sympathy for the wife, and certainly no impulse to question her veracity or sincerity. But not with HRC. Almost as soon as the leak came over the wires, there was a chorus of scepticism. "What Did She Know and When Did She Know It?" headlined the Washington Post's Lloyd Grove. He referred to an account already written by another Washington Post journalist, Peter Baker, "The Breach." In that book, Baker tells another story: that the news of Clinton's infidelity had been broken to HRC two days previously by Clinton's lawyer, David Kendall: "And so it fell to him at that critical moment to play emissary from husband to wife, to disclose the most awful secret of any marriage," Baker wrote on Page 24. "Something obviously had gone on between the president and Lewinsky, Kendall had told the first lady in his soft, understated way. The president was going to have to tell the grand jury about it. Only after Kendall laid the foundation did Clinton speak directly to his wife." Kendall now denies telling the first lady as such - but Baker merely says that Kendall had said "something obviously had gone on" in a "soft, understated way." The next day, August 14, the New York Times reported in a front-page headline that "President Weighs Admitting He Had Sexual Contacts." Did Hillary read the paper that day? Even if you buy the notion that HRC tried as hard as she could to disbelieve the near-universal consensus that her husband had fooled around with a twenty-one-year-old, it's hard to credit that on the morning of August 15, she was that shocked and dumb-founded. Either her powers of denial were even deeper than her husband's powers of deception, or she is simply lying in the book.

And then there's court-stenographer Sidney Blumenthal's account of the same period of time, in his just published, "The Clinton Wars." Blumenthal is a Hillary-crony, a man who treats the Clintons the way Vatican functionaries treat the Pope. But Blumenthal hardly paints a picture of a woman reeling from a personal betrayal. Telephoning Hillary from Italy immediately after she allegedly received the news, Blumenthal doesn't paint a picture of a wife recovering from sudden and unexpected news of inconceivable adultery. He paints a picture of a supremely controlled woman, making cool political calculations: I said that whatever 'issues' anyone had, and hers was worse than anyone's, we had to think about the politics. That was her reasoning as well. She said that the President would be 'embarrassed,' but that was for him to deal with. And that was all she would say about it. Even in a private conversation with a friend, she maintained her dignity. It was my intention to help her do that, and through the next two days we kept in constant contact. Her only remark, according to Blumenthal, was that the president would be embarrassed? And she wasn't? The weirdnesses continue after the president's deposition and immediate speech to the nation explaining his conduct. In her book, Senator Clinton says she was furious and could barely speak to her husband. According to the Associated Press, the 600-page tome "describes in bitter terms the months of chill between them afterward, never more painful than when they went to Martha's Vineyard in Massachusetts for a vacation following his testimony. 'Buddy, the dog, came along to keep Bill company,' she writes. 'He was the only member of our family who was still willing to.' While on the island, she felt 'nothing but profound sadness, disappointment and unresolved anger. I could barely speak to Bill, and when I did, it was a tirade.'"

Hmmm. This is what her closest confidant, Sidney Blumenthal, wrote about the night of the television speech: About ten minutes after [the speech] ended, my hotel phone rang: it was the president, asking what my reaction was. I told him it was all right. Hillary asked me what I thought. I told her the same... They handed the phone to James Carville and Mark Penn ... I could hear the president and Hillary bantering in the background ... They were still working as a team. So was she furious, enraged, disappointed, shocked? Or was she colluding with her husband to spin the politics of his reluctant confession? To tell the truth, I don't know anyone who believes the account Hillary has served up in her book. Her response is the kind of response you'd get from, say, Laura Bush, if her husband confessed to an adultery after what appears to be a long, happy and monogamous marriage. But, as Dick Morris wrote last week, Bill Clinton had been a serial adulterer for their entire marriage, as everybody with half a brain knows. In 1988, he called me and said that he and Hillary were considering divorce and he had to get away from her for a while. I offered him my house in Key West, Florida. Right before the 60 Minutes show during the 1992 campaign, he called for my advice and I suggested that he admit and apologize for the adultery with Flowers and he said "If I did that, I'd have to find a new place to live." In 1995, reviewing his testimony in the fraud trial of Susan McDougal, he asked me how he should handle his 'relationship' with her. I said: 'If you had sex with her, admit it. Don't perjure yourself. We can always undo the political damage, but we can't undo the legal damage.' He nodded. Hillary always knew that her husband couldn't keep his pants on. She knew that he had had serial affairs. They were so obvious that their joint strategy was - from 1992 on - to coyly concede that their marriage had not been perfect. Perhaps she somehow believed that once he became president, everything would change. But surely, given the past, it wasn't inconceivable that he would continue doing what he had always done. If, then, she was genuinely shocked by his admission in 1998, she was a fool. But better to portray herself as a fool - and as a maligned wife - than to acknowledge the truth: that her political ambitions always outweighed the integrity of her marriage; or that she was completely comfortable with an open marriage as long as it meant she could still ride her husband's coat-tails to political power. Her deal with Bill was a marital version of Gordon Brown's and Tony Blair's Islington pact: one partner would be the front, the other would be an integral part of the project.

With Blair and Brown, this makes a lot of sense. But what middle America cannot quite stomach is the thought that an actual, living, breathing human marriage could be premised on such cynical, cold and political terms. And that's the central and obvious reason for Hillary's current reprise of the dramas of 1998. She knows that if she runs for president, she will have to answer these critical questions about her role in the ethical and legal morasses of the Clinton presidency. Her strategy is to argue that she was a typical wife and he was an incurable philanderer; that she was the wronged party and somehow endured to fight another day on clearer, better terms. What she cannot do is run for president as the partner in an open marriage designed entirely for political ends. Americans simply cannot accept that kind of arrangement in their head of state. Unless she disproves that impression, she is finished.

The trouble, of course, is that the impression is largely true. Even the left-liberal New York Times couldn't disguise this fact in a story this week about the Clintons' still-evolving relationship: "For much of the last two years," The Times reported, "the Clintons have been acting as independent operators. They have a home in Chappaqua, New York, and a home in Washington. Mrs. Clinton spends every weekend in New York, where Mr. Clinton spends most of his time when not traveling. They are much more apt to be seen traveling individually, rather than as a couple. Sylvia Woods, owner of Sylvia's Restaurant, near Mr. Clinton's office in Harlem, said the former president rarely came to her restaurant, though Mrs. Clinton regularly turned up. 'I need to talk to them about that,' Ms. Woods said. 'They need to come in together sometime.' Similarly, in Chappaqua, solo appearances by the two Clintons appear to be the norm. Residents said they often saw Mr. Clinton walking around town with his dog, chatting with neighbors or dining in delis and restaurants. 'I see him quite a bit,' said Kirk Sprenger, who owns a wine shop in Chappaqua. 'He walks through downtown with his dog, stops in at Starbucks for coffee.' Asked if he ever saw the Clintons together, Mr. Sprenger quickly said: 'Never. Oh no, I have never seen them together.'" Of course there's nothing wrong as such with that kind of distant, open marriage. If that's the way the Clintons want to set up their relationship, it's their business. The problem is that America is in many ways a publicly conservative - or at least quietly hypocritical - culture. Americans - especially in the heartland between the two coasts - don't particularly want their president as an exemplar of a transparently post-modern marriage. For a female leader especially, let alone one attempting to become the first woman president of the United States, having a traditional family life is an essential component of her political viability. Hillary knows this; and yet she also knows that that isn't anywhere near a description of her unique deal with her husband/partner/colleague. So once again, she's forced into the kind of lie that undercuts her obvious talents as a political operator. Many Americans will simply concur with Camille Paglia who, contacted by Newsday to give her own predictions about the book and its reception, simply said, "Anyone who stays married to an infantile, drooling, serial groper deserves what she gets."

At the same time, you'd be a fool to discount Hillary's ambition or skill. If she were to jump into the current Democratic race for the White House she would be an instant favorite. Her post-White House career has been shrewd and determined. She ran a near flawless campaign for the U.S. Senate, doing far better in up-state New York than anyone predicted. Once she got to the Senate, she focussed on winning friends, raising prodigious amounts of money for her colleagues (thus increasing her clout over them), and moving to the political center by backing welfare reform, and supporting president Bush on the war against Saddam Hussein. She remains a huge favorite among those Democratic activists who raise money, knock on doors and vote in primaries. Meanwhile, she has kept her own man, Terry McAuliffe, at the head of the Democratic National Committee. It's widely believed that she would be quite happy to see George W. Bush win a second term so that she can run against an unknown successor in 2008. By then, she hopes, the Clinton Wars will be well behind her.

But they won't, of course. There's a solid 20 percent of the country who will do anything to prevent her from becoming president. Mention her name in some contexts and what you get is an irrational, near-hysterical tirade. Even now, rumors spread the instant she puts her head above the parapet. She didn't write her own book; she swears like a soldier at the Democratic Senatorial meetings; she holds grudges. Conservatives - especially in her own baby-boomer generation - froth at the mouth when discussing her. They despise her even more than Bill, who could be dismissed, in Bob Dole's words, as a "likable rogue." But whatever else Hillary is, she sure isn't likable. Frosty, arrogant, self-righteous, imperial, convinced of her own rectitude and of the evil that all Republicans represent, for many she incarnates her own generation's insufferable post-Watergate piety. If the deepest divide in American culture is still that between those who protested the Vietnam War and those who fought it, Hillary looms as the symbol of one side and one side only. She can never transcend this. From her early days as a junior prosecutor in Nixon's impeachment to her dismissal of women who "stay home and bake cookies" in the 1990s, she evokes opposition and, yes, hatred, like no-one else in American culture.

Some of this is clearly unfair. She is obviously a highly intelligent, focused, articulate politician. Her Faustian bargain with her philandering husband could be interpreted as a youthful mistake for which she has already paid dearly. At the same time, she clearly does believe not simply that her opponents are mistaken but that they are evil. Her instinctive response to her husband's betrayal and perjury - that it was entirely a fiction created by the right-wing - revealed how she truly sees the world. Her proximity to liberal bigots like Sidney Blumenthal suggests that her political goal is not to unify the country but to punish and humiliate half of it. Her paranoia in this respect should bar her from much higher political office, especially since her return to the White House would open wounds that have only recently begun to heal.

This cultural divide still exists, and may even be deepening. You saw it in the division between "blue" and "red" America - the liberal coasts and the conservative center - in the 2000 election. You see it in the impassioned debates about abortion - where the alienated pro-lifers have turned in a few extreme cases, to murder and terrorism. You see it even in the troubles of the New York Times, where a classic liberal baby-boomer, Howell Raines, so infuriated his colleagues and readers with pious liberal bromides that he was eventually forced to step down. You see it in the fights over gun control or gay rights. The division is not simply political - it's about something deeper, about the very identity of a country, which is still fiercely contested in America in ways not often seen elsewhere. Some are able to overcome this division. George W. Bush hasn't quite - he is still viscerally loathed in some pockets of "blue" America. But his conduct in the war on terror and his personal aversion to the politics of personal demonization have helped smoothe over some of the raw feelings of the Clinton era. But with Hillary, no such unifying could or would take place. She would be a replay of the rancor of the Nixon and Clinton eras. If she ran for office, she would divide an already divided country in ways that would tilt the United States toward poisonous political unrest.

That's why any sane person will hope she remains for ever a distinguished Senator for New York. And why those hopes will never deter her from pursuing her own ambitions at whatever cost to the country she aims one day to rule.

June 7, 2003, Sunday Times. copyright © 2003, 2003 Andrew Sullivan


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Editorial; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: andrewsullivan; andrewsullivanlist; hillary; livinghistory; whatsheknew
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To: Miss Marple; Travis McGee
You might want to stay out of Austin and Houston.

If the Hildebea$t became President, those two left wing enclaves would put a bounty out on conservatives like the two of you!
21 posted on 06/08/2003 9:30:46 AM PDT by Grampa Dave (Evil Old White Devil Californian Grampa for big Al Sharpton and Nader in primaries!)
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To: Grampa Dave
Don't worry, I'd stay out of any city over 100,000 population.
22 posted on 06/08/2003 9:32:16 AM PDT by Travis McGee (------Jesus said "arm yourself." Luke 22: 35-38.)
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To: MEG33; Miss Marple; Dog Gone
This book is backfiring in her face. Tonights interview will bomb also.......people will not like their faces being rubbed in this crap ....AGAIN!
23 posted on 06/08/2003 9:32:26 AM PDT by Dog
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To: mrsmith
That's the plan.Next thing you know she'll be baking cookies.
24 posted on 06/08/2003 9:33:21 AM PDT by MEG33
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To: COUNTrecount
Her proximity to liberal bigots like Sidney Blumenthal suggests that her political goal is not to unify the country but to punish and humiliate half of it. Her paranoia in this respect should bar her from much higher political office, especially since her return to the White House would open wounds that have only recently begun to heal.

I don't believe that Hillary will make it to the White House...but I do shudder when I think of either Clinton becoming the governor of NY or the mayor of NYC--Pataki and Bloomberg are looking pretty vulnerable about now...gotta hope that Rudi Guiliani rides in to the rescue and takes back Hillary's seat or becomes mayor again.

25 posted on 06/08/2003 9:34:04 AM PDT by foreshadowed at waco
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To: COUNTrecount
And her obvious intent to make it back to the White House in her own right has the potential to turn America's already fractious polity into something bordering on civil war.

Yep, I'm afraid it's going to happen. We're going to have to endure an entire presidential campaign with Hillary's frozen smile and practiced lines plastered all over the place.

26 posted on 06/08/2003 9:34:44 AM PDT by independentmind
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To: COUNTrecount
That's why any sane person will hope she remains for ever a distinguished Senator for New York...

I sincerely hope Sullivan is wrong on this count. Hopefully she'll pass on the 2004 Presidential election and will lose her Senate seat in 2006. That would be the best of all worlds. Short of that, perhaps she'll develop an incurable disease....

27 posted on 06/08/2003 9:38:05 AM PDT by afraidfortherepublic
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To: Grampa Dave; Miss Marple; Travis McGee
Houston proud and it will just get better when Michael Berry is elected Mayor. It will take a few years to get the Lee Brown funk out of the city, but we will do it!

Y'all are welcome to set up yer base of operations at my crib if Hitlery is elected to national dog-catcher or above!


Eaker

28 posted on 06/08/2003 9:38:07 AM PDT by Eaker (AdiĆ³s reality; I want to be a Jack-Ass millionaire!!............;<)
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To: MEG33
Well, I think this book is going to be unintentionally hilarious, which will create the well-deserved backfire it deserves. After that leak with the purple prose about her gasping and gulping for air, today kcvl found another leak in which because of her "poor childhood" she always worried about money and therefore "dutifully wrapped the White House leftovers in plastic."

I am beginning to think that one of the ghostwriters might have been a Republican mole.

29 posted on 06/08/2003 9:39:02 AM PDT by Miss Marple
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To: Travis McGee; Mia T; dukeman
Perhaps she somehow believed that once he became president, everything would change...

As has been well documented here on FR (remember the extensive and entertaining research by 'Dukeman'?), Hillary definitely had a reason to believe things would change, but not for any publicly explained reasons provided by the willfully/blissfully ignorant media on this point.

No, the reason Hillary didn't expect it was because she had her own personal staff attached to the Oval Office whose primary job it was to spy, screen, and police such activities.

That's why Nancy Hernrich (sp?) and others whose names I've forgotten were posted in the jobs they held (they reported directly to Hillary, as did Sidney B), and that's why Lewinsky was kicked out early on from the WH and banished to the Pentagon (understand that to outright fire her would have unwisely tempted her to go public) early on in their affair, well before anyone like Drudge had an inkling as to what was going on. THAT'S when Hillary found out about Monica -- perhaps a year earlier then provided under the 'cover-up' story line.

I'd like to see one reporter find the right people who can verify that Hillary ordered Lewinsky's exile -- that would prove the lie once and for all.

Hillary's rage must have been based on the fact that Bill's people outwitted Hillary's people and permitted Lewinsky to covertly return, i.e., Betty Curry. I'm sure Betty could tell quite a story -- and why, pray tell, isn't the press offering $1M for HER story!! (Hint --they are not really interested in the truth). And there's even a reasonable chance that she might even tell the truth!!! And remember that when Lewinsky was banished to the Pentagon, the Hillary spies (who had obviously failed in their job) were fired -- and who do you think fired them? (Hint -- who hired Craig Livingston?)

Instead, the press reads the story, with its conflicting tales i.e., Blumenthal, as if it were a mystery novel wherein one story line is the truth, the others false leads. That's an entirely false reading -- because in the Clinton White House, ALL the story lines are false, and the contradictions between them are merely artifacts of the basic problem of coordinating lies -- that it's not easy to do, after all.

30 posted on 06/08/2003 9:39:05 AM PDT by WL-law
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To: Grampa Dave; Hillary's Lovely Legs
I seem to recall a story that Hillary was told it was true (the monica story) while she was riding a train to visit some school kids (in baltimore?)
31 posted on 06/08/2003 9:40:19 AM PDT by TheErnFormerlyKnownAsBig (Soccer Mom's flee the Rats for Bush in his flight suit: I call this the Moisture Factor. MF high!)
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To: Miss Marple
LOL!
32 posted on 06/08/2003 9:40:31 AM PDT by MEG33
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To: WL-law
Good post..
33 posted on 06/08/2003 9:45:43 AM PDT by Dog
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To: netmilsmom
I don't know about that. My four year old grand daughter doesn't like to share PaPa even with her best friends. Her 2 year old brother Bubba Bam Bam, acts like a middle linebacker (he is built like one) and just pushes people away from his Grandparents.

Thanks for the kind offer.

We could probably set up a colony of Freeper Ex Pats in some nice island. We could buy the Island and have our own Republic.
34 posted on 06/08/2003 9:45:58 AM PDT by Grampa Dave (Evil Old White Devil Californian Grampa for big Al Sharpton and Nader in primaries!)
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To: Batrachian
I have to respectfully disagree. I think that if she is foolish enough to try to get into the race for the White House, (on her own and not on bubba's tails), without someone like Ross P. to split the Conservative vote, she would fail miserably. Without reading any book of hers, we know what here agenda and her history is. And it’s not in our best interest.

I think more than enough Americans now see past the phony smile and know enough of her unprosecuted felonious past that she'd have her little socialist hind end whooped before the election.

I just wonder, after 8+ year of hell this socialist and her fellow-travelers put this country through and endangered our national security, why would anyone read the sanitized rehash of those years that several ghost writers put together for her? And why would anyone spend money to buy it?
35 posted on 06/08/2003 9:46:35 AM PDT by Victor K
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To: COUNTrecount
"memeroids"

Too rich. LOL
36 posted on 06/08/2003 9:47:06 AM PDT by gcruse (Superstition is a mind in chains.)
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To: Eaker
May we reserve a small place? My hubby will network all computers so we can get an intranet plan of action!

He bought a gun and if someone can teach him (or me) how to use it, we may be useful.
37 posted on 06/08/2003 9:47:17 AM PDT by netmilsmom (God Bless our President, those with him & our troops)
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To: Travis McGee
Scary.
38 posted on 06/08/2003 9:49:23 AM PDT by wardaddy (I was born my Papa's son....when I hit the ground I was on the run.....)
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To: Grampa Dave
>>I don't know about that. My four year old grand daughter doesn't like to share PaPa even with her best friends. Her 2 year old brother Bubba Bam Bam, acts like a middle linebacker (he is built like one) and just pushes people away from his Grandparents<<

Well, now who can blame them!!!!!
39 posted on 06/08/2003 9:49:52 AM PDT by netmilsmom (God Bless our President, those with him & our troops)
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To: Travis McGee; Miss Marple; Tijeras_Slim
Lot's of room left for folks like ya'll. New Mexico used to be a pretty cool place then Kalifornicators and other Huggers along with Azatlan reformers invaded and that state is a sh*t bed of sedition and socialism these days cept for a few holdouts.

Heck even Ronald had California running pretty smooth at one time. IMO never assume one place is gonna stay free just because it's better than or less troubled "today". Texas even has it's future flashed on the Noooooze as we see the likes of the Ardmore RAT's stopping the democratic process when they know they won't win a legal vote.

I'm gonna find a Texas district map and start painting em blue and red and direct my efforts to get rid of the RAT infestation here once and for all if possible with all the welfare PC BS going on here.

It's a life long fight and a duty for every freedom loving citizen to pay attention to detail and vote socialist SOB's back to the gutter from which they crawled !

Stay Safe and Welcome to Texas !

40 posted on 06/08/2003 9:53:41 AM PDT by Squantos (Cum catapultae proscriptae erunt tum soli proscript catapultas habebunt.)
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