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Mark Steyn: The British wrest defeat from the jaws of victory
The Sunday Telegraph (U.K.) ^ | 06/08/03 | Mark Steyn

Posted on 06/07/2003 6:31:49 PM PDT by Pokey78

I had a weird experience a few days ago. I flew from the Middle East to North America. In Iraq, 95 per cent of the people I met told me they were happy to be liberated and regretted only that various disappeared loved ones weren't around to see it. In the US, the great victory has been digested and folks have moved on to newer distractions, like the travails of the indicted style guru Martha Stewart. In their different ways, these are both rational reactions.

But, en route from east to west, I briefly touched down in the strange area known as "Europe", where possibly due to a freak electrical storm or some other phenomenon the people of Britain appeared to be in the fevered grip of some mass psychosis, perhaps a variant of Sars (Sudden Alternative Reality Syndrome). Peter Worthington, the Canadian columnist and veteran of the Second World War and Korea, likes to say that there is no such thing as an unpopular won war. Tell it to Downing Street. If I understand correctly, the British, having won the war, are now demanding a recount. Across the length and breadth of the realm, the people are as one: now that the war's out of the way we can go back to bitching and whining that Blair hasn't made the case for it.

This is all very odd. In Kirkuk the other day, they found another mass grave, this time with the bodies of 200 children who had been buried alive. Yawn. Doesn't count. Wake me if they find a toxic warhead among the teeny skulls. The naysayers were wrong on so much - millions of refugees, Vietnam quagmire, Stalingrad, etc - you can't blame them for clinging to the one little straw that hasn't shrivelled up and slipped between their fingers: Come on, Tony, where's the WMD?

Or as Iain Duncan Smith put it in the House of Commons: "The truth is nobody believes a word you say now." Well, I do. Because what Mr Blair said is not only in line with what American officials told me, it is in line with what Continental officials told me - as recently as two weeks ago, when a big-time Euro paused midway through his harangue about the illegality of the war to assure me that "of course" Saddam had been up to WMD monkey business.

That's why, if you notice, the axis of weasels (France, Germany, Russia) and its short-pants league (Belgium, Luxembourg, Canada), while undoubtedly enjoying Mr Blair's discomfort, have nevertheless declined to join in the show-us-the-sarin taunts. They know what their intelligence services say (assuming, for the purposes of argument, Luxembourg has an intelligence service), and it's the same as the British and Americans. The Leader of Her Majesty's Loyal Opposition is presumably privy to more high-level briefings than I am, so his tawdry opportunism is especially contemptible.

What IDS merely implied, Max Hastings spelt out in these pages last week: "The Prime Minister committed British troops and sacrificed British lives on the basis of a deceit." Sir Max, the liberator of Port Stanley, has somehow morphed for this war into Belgrano bore Tam Dalyell: his thesis is that Blair and his American masters lied to the world about Saddam's arsenal in order to justify an invasion that would prove no such arsenal existed and that they were a bunch of liars.

Insofar as this is a serious argument, let's rebut it in terms the armchair accusers can understand: Liberty. Not the liberty George W Bush has brought to Iraq, which Eurosophisticates are so sniffy about, but the Liberty on Regent Street. I once ordered a sofa from Liberty and, as is the way, I had to wait till they made it. They didn't have the sofa itself, but they had sofa capability. That's what counts: capability, not inventory. It would obviously be easier to wait and pick the evidence of WMD out of the rubble of Birmingham, but for the Americans it is capability that's the determining criterion.

In that sense, the contrasting post-war fates of Bush and Blair are instructive. The President has always been so straightforward that, in an interview with ITV 15 months ago, Trevor McDonald seemed to have difficulty taking yes for an answer. "I made up my mind that Saddam needs to go," Bush told him.

"And, of course, if the logic of the war on terror means anything," Sir Trevor responded, "then Saddam must go?"
"That's what I just said," said the President. "The policy of my government is that he goes."

"So you're going to go after him?" pressed Sir Trevor, determined not to let Bush get away with these evasions.

"As I told you, the policy of my government is that Saddam Hussein not be in power."

And now he's not. Mr Blair could never put it like that. And the moment he prevailed upon Bush to go the extra mile with the UN, it was inevitable that there would be a fair amount of what I believe the British call "total bollocks". That is, by definition, the official language of multilateralism, and one reason why I have little time for it. For 18 months, my position on Iraq was consistent: I was in favour of whacking Saddam because the price of leaving him non-whacked was too high for America's broader interests. But once you get into auditioning justifications in front of a panel comprising France, China and Guinea, you're in for quite a tap dance. In the end, Britain officially went to war on a technicality, and given that that technicality - Saddam's technical non-compliance with Resolution 1441 - still holds, the WMD song and dance is irrelevant, both de facto and de jure. And as politics, two months after victory, it's pathetically immature.

In America, Mr Blair is still Churchill. In Britain, Mr Blair has fast-forwarded to the Churchill of 1945: his own party never liked him, his wartime coalition with Clement Duncan Attlee has broken up, and the ingrate voters have had enough of wartime austerity - the wretched hospitals, the broken trains - and would like a domestic panderer rather than a global colossus.

Fair enough. Settle your differences with Blair at the next election. But on this issue he was right, and there's nothing to be gained for British Conservatism in subscribing to theories of deliberate deceit that in America are exclusively the province of paranoid cranks. Some of those besmirching British victory in a noble cause should be ashamed of themselves.


TOPICS: Editorial; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; United Kingdom
KEYWORDS: blair; britain; bushdoctrineunfold; iraq; marksteyn; marksteynlist; warlist; wmd
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To: MeeknMing
I never tell my children are not native Texans.They were born in Ca. during Navy days .We could use Texas plates on our car then....I just figure it doesn't count!
61 posted on 06/08/2003 6:39:41 AM PDT by MEG33
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To: Slings and Arrows
"I could donate some Barbra Streisand CDs."

I believe they are looking for WMDs, not toxic sludge.
62 posted on 06/08/2003 6:54:51 AM PDT by brewer1516
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To: Travis McGee
They buried those 200 babies with their dollies. It was all worth it.
63 posted on 06/08/2003 6:59:20 AM PDT by netmilsmom (God Bless our President, those with him & our troops)
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To: Brian Allen
"...hesperophobically-pathological envy..."

LOL!
64 posted on 06/08/2003 7:25:35 AM PDT by headsonpikes
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To: MeeknMing
Thanks for the heads up!
65 posted on 06/08/2003 7:50:32 AM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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To: MeeknMing
Thanks for the ping, Meekie! It's sad that his country doesn't see how great he is like we do...perhaps he could come here and run for office! :o)
66 posted on 06/08/2003 8:05:13 AM PDT by cherry_bomb88 ("It's easier to fight for one's principals than to live up to them" ~Alfred Adler)
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To: Pokey78
One of Mark's better articles.
67 posted on 06/08/2003 8:21:21 AM PDT by Grampa Dave (Evil Old White Devil Californian Grampa for big Al Sharpton and Nader in primaries!)
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To: MEG33
A friend and his wife are from Florida, and they met in college there. After graduation, she got a job here in Texas and they moved here. He got one here shortly thereafter. They have a daughter who was born here. A few years ago we were all in the car having a conversation, and their daughter mentioned the fact that she was born in Texas while her parents were born in Florida. She commented she was GLAD she was born in Texas. I latched on to that quickly, and told her: "Nikki, tell them that there are only TWO types of folks in this world - Texans and those that WISH they were Texans!" LOL !!!



68 posted on 06/08/2003 8:26:55 AM PDT by MeekOneGOP (Bu-bye Dixie Chimps! / Check out my Freeper site !: http://home.attbi.com/~freeper/wsb/index.html)
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To: Pokey78
They don't get it...Saddam Hussein and this thugs WERE the weapons of Mass Destruction. Yeesh.
69 posted on 06/08/2003 8:31:14 AM PDT by Hildy
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To: MeeknMing
I knew you would understand!
70 posted on 06/08/2003 8:34:14 AM PDT by MEG33
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To: Hildy
I wish this column could be linked to some of the NO WMD FOUND posts.I am a computer dunce.
71 posted on 06/08/2003 8:36:26 AM PDT by MEG33
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To: cherry_bomb88
You're welcomed.

He'd get my vote in a heartbeat !!

72 posted on 06/08/2003 8:51:24 AM PDT by MeekOneGOP (Bu-bye Dixie Chimps! / Check out my Freeper site !: http://home.attbi.com/~freeper/wsb/index.html)
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To: MEG33
hehe! :O)
73 posted on 06/08/2003 8:52:45 AM PDT by MeekOneGOP (Bu-bye Dixie Chimps! / Check out my Freeper site !: http://home.attbi.com/~freeper/wsb/index.html)
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To: maica
I'm just so glad to have Steyn on the internet! Today, really scorching columns can get first distributed on places like FR, and then passed to a network of friends. More and more, the lamestream media is being left behind.

Bush and Blair are heroes, and will go down in history as such.

74 posted on 06/08/2003 8:54:08 AM PDT by Travis McGee (----- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com -----)
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To: headsonpikes
That's the really hard kind to handle.

Gets folks murder-bomber riled, aiming airplanes at tall buildings -- and stuff like that.
75 posted on 06/08/2003 9:14:28 AM PDT by Brian Allen ( Rebellion to tyrants is obedience to God - Thomas Jefferson)
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To: Travis McGee
Bump that..
76 posted on 06/08/2003 9:29:44 AM PDT by wardaddy (I was born my Papa's son....when I hit the ground I was on the run.....)
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To: Brian Allen
There isn't a Limey born who would recognise a True Conservative if one was biting him in the arse at the time.

Hmmm... I'd go as far as I'd say I would.

77 posted on 06/08/2003 3:29:19 PM PDT by Da_Shrimp
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To: Pokey78; Ernest_at_the_Beach; MeeknMing
Insofar as this is a serious argument, let's rebut it in terms the armchair accusers can understand: Liberty. Not the liberty George W Bush has brought to Iraq, which Eurosophisticates are so sniffy about, but the Liberty on Regent Street. I once ordered a sofa from Liberty and, as is the way, I had to wait till they made it. They didn't have the sofa itself, but they had sofa capability. That's what counts: capability, not inventory. It would obviously be easier to wait and pick the evidence of WMD out of the rubble of Birmingham, but for the Americans it is capability that's the determining criterion.

It is so perfectly clear. Why is this so hard to understand.

78 posted on 06/08/2003 7:54:27 PM PDT by Victoria Delsoul
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To: Brian Allen
I am trying to figure this statement out:

hesperophobically-pathological envy, hatred and rage-engined anti-Americanism

Concentrating on hesperophobically

But the dictionary threw up its hands! So I tried hespero

And I found One entry found for Hesperian.

Main Entry: Hes·pe·ri·an
Pronunciation: he-'spir-E-&n
Function: adjective
Etymology: Latin Hesperia, the west, from Greek, from feminine of hesperios of the evening, western, from hesperos evening -- more at WEST
Date: 15th century
: WESTERN, OCCIDENTAL

OK--- West phobic - pathological?

Am I close?

79 posted on 06/08/2003 11:23:46 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (Where is Saddam? and his Weapons of Mass Destruction?)
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To: Victoria Delsoul
It is so perfectly clear. Why is this so hard to understand.

Many don't seem to want to understand!

Even here on FR!

80 posted on 06/08/2003 11:26:55 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (Where is Saddam? and his Weapons of Mass Destruction?)
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