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New Step Underground in Universe Origins Quest (LHC)
Yahoo! Science ^ | 6/4/03 | Robert Evans - Reuters

Posted on 06/04/2003 6:45:04 PM PDT by NormsRevenge

GENEVA (Reuters) - Europe's top particle physics research center has taken a major step in its plan to build the world's biggest "particle smasher" which it hopes will eventually unlock the secrets of the origins of the universe.

On Wednesday it inaugurated a huge bottle-shaped vault which will house Atlas, an enormous detector of the micro-items of matter that make up life, the universe and everything.

Atlas, standing as high as a four-story building and twice as long, will almost fill the cavern, cut into rock beneath meadowland straddling the Swiss-French border outside Geneva.

The giant piece of machinery will form a central part of a "how things began" program at the multi-nation center -- CERN (news - web sites), the European Organization for Nuclear Research.

The completed particle accelerator, which is due to start up in 2007, aims to recreate the conditions that existed within less than a billionth of a second after the "Big Bang" explosion -- probably around 15 billion years ago -- that created the known universe.

Scientists say this will give a much clearer view of how this created galaxies, planets -- and the life that so far is only known to exist on Earth.

To carry it out, CERN is building the world's largest scientific instrument -- the Large Hadron Collider, or LHC -- to operate in a 17-mile circular tunnel 225 feet down between Lake Geneva and the Jura mountains.

One of its main goals will be finally to catch the so-far theoretical "Higgs boson" that has eluded scientists at CERN and its U.S. counterpart Fermilab for nearly two decades.

The LHC replaces an earlier decade-long experiment known as the LEP, now dismantled, which two years ago came tantalisingly close to catching a glimpse of the Higgs boson that researchers believe gives matter its weight.

Like the LEP, but many times more powerful, the LHC will project particles of matter at vast speeds in opposite directions around the tunnel, and the 7,000 ton Atlas and another detector will record what happens when they collide.

Some 2,000 scientists from 150 research laboratories in 34 countries are involved in the some $8 billion LHC project -- also financially backed by the United States which 10 years ago abandoned an even larger one for cost reasons.

CERN, founded 50 years ago, has 20 European member states who largely finance it, but the European Commission (news - web sites), India, Israel, Japan, Russia, the United States and Turkey have observer status -- and contribute to -- the body.


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KEYWORDS: cern; crevolist; geneva; higgsboson; origins; particlesmasher; underground; universe
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To: LittleJoe
Can you give an example of a practical future application for this knowledge? I'm not trying to be a smart ass, I'm really curious.

I can't, really, because not knowing the physics, we can't say what its capabilities are. This is basic research. I can speculate, but that would be more to excite your imagination than to tell you what to expect.

One analogy would be to consider the uses to which we put electricity, and to compare it to what Ben Franklin might have said, had you asked him to list the applications after his first experiments with lightning. There's no way he could even have scratched the surface of the implications.

41 posted on 06/05/2003 1:18:42 PM PDT by Physicist
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To: LittleJoe
Quantum computers, and that is NO joke, will be multiprocessing, light speed, a million times more power then todays computers. All because of physics.
42 posted on 06/05/2003 1:19:05 PM PDT by Aric2000 (Join Grampa Dave's Team, $5 a month is all it takes, Come join, you know you want to!!)
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To: Physicist
That's ok, I like having my imagination excited! I wish more money were put into pure science instead of the broken promises of the snake oil salesmen.

Can't wait to see the results!
43 posted on 06/05/2003 1:30:38 PM PDT by LittleJoe
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To: Aric2000
Aha!!!

My daughter is beta testing Star Wars Galaxie right now. Sounds like you're talking about real virtual reality. I like it!
44 posted on 06/05/2003 1:34:02 PM PDT by LittleJoe
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To: Physicist
Very good. Now tell me the supersymmetry breaking parameters, the electroweak cutoff scale, the mass of the Higgs boson, the CKM matrix parameters...

You'll find it in the little-known, long-lost Book of Parameters, Chapter I. It was supposed to come before Genesis in The Book. :-)

45 posted on 06/05/2003 5:53:10 PM PDT by jennyp (http://crevo.bestmessageboard.com)
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To: NormsRevenge
also financially backed by the United States which 10 years ago abandoned an even larger one for cost reasons.

Actually incorrect. It was not abandoned for cost reasons, it was abandoned by a certain rapist because it was in Texas and the people of Texas had had the nerve to elect TWO Republican Senators to represent them.

46 posted on 06/05/2003 7:38:03 PM PDT by gore3000
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To: Aric2000
when Bush 41 cut the funding

A gratuitous and incurrect attack on GWB's dad. It was Clinton that cut the funding.

47 posted on 06/05/2003 7:39:25 PM PDT by gore3000
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To: gore3000
Thank you, but that correction has already been made.
48 posted on 06/05/2003 7:42:51 PM PDT by Aric2000 (Join Grampa Dave's Team, $5 a month is all it takes, Come join, you know you want to!!)
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To: Physicist
But, it would seem, they are simply the means men/humans have devised to explain what the Creator did. -LiteKeeper-

Believe whatever you like, but these aren't "just so" stories.

Attacking what he did not say. He did not say that science is wrong. He said that naturalism is wrong and has been proven so by science since naturalism proposes randomness where science has shown order. In other words, to make it real plain and simple to you NATURALISM IS NOT SCIENCE, IT IS THE OPPOSITE OF SCIENCE.

49 posted on 06/05/2003 7:43:09 PM PDT by gore3000
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To: Aric2000
Proving the Bible -- God wrong (( impossible )) isn't going to make evolution right (( impossible )) --- waste of time !
50 posted on 06/05/2003 7:51:19 PM PDT by f.Christian (( apocalypsis, from Gr. apokalypsis, from apokalyptein to uncover, from apo- + kalyptein to cover))
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To: farmfriend; PatrickHenry
Thanks for the pings. :-)
51 posted on 06/05/2003 10:36:25 PM PDT by RadioAstronomer
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To: RadioAstronomer
These threads never seem to last very long. Farewell bump.
52 posted on 06/06/2003 2:42:33 PM PDT by PatrickHenry (Felix, qui potuit rerum cognoscere causas.)
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