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IRAQ: Powell Defends Information He Used to Justify Iraq War
The New York Times International ^
| May 31, 2003
| JAMES DAO and THOM SHANKER
Posted on 05/30/2003 11:45:58 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
Great read...
But what I don't get is why we conservatives are actually discussing the whole weapons of mass distruction issue. Bush said it himself. The Iraq war was not only to prevent Saddam from using his weapons. But this was also the next step in the war against terrorism. And if any liberal jackass tries to contradict you, just mention Saddams funding of the sucide bomber families... If that's not supporting terrorism... I don't know what is?
To: LdSentinal
So the news breaks here on Free Republic. That's big. The media and Demonrats can just continue discrediting themselves. It just goes to show you with the way they twisted Wolfowitz's words to their story on how Powell had 'serious doubts' just shows how much they are willing to lie and make up. It's the NY Times all over again and it's all the liberal organizations that have such a problem with the truth. Notice how the media doesn't care how they've already released info on the two mobile biological labs, like it's nothing! Now if this turns out to be true, which it likely because there's no doubt Iraq had weapons of mass destruction-they all know it. The only thing I worried about is that we gave the Iraqi regime so much time to move them to Syria, etc. or get rid of them prior to us actually taking action.
To: MJY1288
I can't wait for all the silence coming from these leftist had wringers when the WMD's are foundThe reality is that if they're found this late, after all of the media questioning about their existance, there will be accusations of them being planted.
Maybe the powers-that-be should look at the sources of their information. Just to make sure none of it came from parties that had an axe to grind against the Iraqui government.
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posted on
05/31/2003 5:57:21 AM PDT
by
grania
("Won't get fooled again")
To: MJY1288; Ernest_at_the_Beach; Howlin
I maintain they
have been found. Mustard gas and other poisons in the Tigris River, rolling chemical labs (weather balloons my foot), chem suits and atropine injector stockpiles--what do people think all of that was for? Why isn't the administration harping on these finds, instead of just sitting back and taking all this criticism?
Iraq had the weapons, some were dumped into the Tigris (and who knows where else), some are hidden away in the desert somewhere, some were doubtless moved across the Iranian and Syrian borders. But they had them, they threatened to use them, and they planned to use them. Otherwise, they wouldn't have gone to the trouble of providing chem suits and atropine injectors.
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posted on
05/31/2003 7:26:02 AM PDT
by
MizSterious
(Support whirled peas!)
To: grania
I just cannot help but think that the stupid diplomatic dance we performed with the UN resolutions, was a perfect time for Saddam to get his house in order, and to either transport the weapons to Syria, or something else like that.
Colin Powell insisted that we get the international community behind us, which was as slow as molasses. All those weeks of delay were a gift to Saddam.
Think back to Bush's appearance throughout that stupid UN fiasco. I remember thinking he was fighting an unbelievable amount of rage within. Now we know why.
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posted on
05/31/2003 7:29:01 AM PDT
by
Galtoid
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To: Galtoid
I suspect your explanation is valid. I'm wondering if the delay wasn't time to win over a few more Iraqui military leaders.
The problem with that is, if they no longer existed, it negated the reason given to be there in the first place. And, the next thing, liberating the Iraquis...well, I doubt letting a Shiite majority vote for their government was on the screen.
This incursion and the one in Afghanistan will be up to history to judge. But, it'll be hard. You can't evaluate what didn't happen. I suspect that disrupting the flow of things in these Mideast hotbeds stopped at least some terrorist acts.
Meanwhile, something has to be done to stabilize the region. I'm glad GWB is now bringing up the Palestinian issue and insisting the Israelis come along for the ride.
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posted on
05/31/2003 8:29:41 AM PDT
by
grania
("Won't get fooled again")
To: bushfamfan
Well I actually got a clue from Drudge!
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posted on
05/31/2003 9:12:26 AM PDT
by
Ernest_at_the_Beach
(Where is Saddam? and his Weapons of Mass Destruction?)
To: grania
The problem with that is, if they no longer existed, it negated the reason given to be there in the first place. So you are buying into the Leftists argument that finding the WMD was the only reason to be there?
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posted on
05/31/2003 9:17:50 AM PDT
by
Ernest_at_the_Beach
(Where is Saddam? and his Weapons of Mass Destruction?)
To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
So you are buying into the Leftists argument that finding the WMD was the only reason to be there? I'm stating that the Weapons of Mass Destruction are the persuasive argument that Colin Powell used to support going into Iraq.
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posted on
05/31/2003 10:05:53 AM PDT
by
grania
("Won't get fooled again")
To: StringTheory
Very true. The fact is, the anti war crowd are jumping all over this WMD issue because that is their only meal ticket now. The anti war crowd became very silent once they realized that the war effort went relatively smoothly, and now that the major fighting is over they are now jumping on the WMD bandwagon to 'save face.'
I have been debating this war on Iraq issue on another message board since last year, and all the anti war posters on the other site never mentioned WMD or lack of evidence thereof for their anti war stance. They protested the war mainly because it was an illegal "imperialistic" and aggresive action against an innocent Iraqi people. In fact, these anti war people were the very ones blathering about how the U.N. inspections were working and for Bush and company to give them more time.
The war on Iraq wasn't only about WMD, it was also about human rights violations in Iraq (one of the worst in the world) and the ongoing war against terrorism.
I'm sure the anti war crowd are going to be all over this new round of "evidence proving" that Powell and others had serious doubts about the WMD evidence. Of course these same hypocrites were the first ones to decry new found evidence of mobile weapons labs and whatnot, whining about not jumping to conclusions and so darned eager to discredit the source of the information.
It's a lose lose situation in my book.
To: wolf24; MizSterious; Ernest_at_the_Beach
Bush has been skilled at the "rope-a-dope" strategy whereby he allows the opposition just enough rope to hang themselves. Could this just be another round of it?All in due time, my friends, all in due time. They'll let the leftist shouting get shrill enough and loud enough, then the WMD's will start to appear. We may even go into Syria and the Bekaa valley to get some more of them and do a little house cleaning at the same time.
Hezbollah and Hamas have been asking for a party for a long time and we might just give 'em one. Wouldn't hurt the "Road Map" plans either.
my penny's worth of thoughts.
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posted on
05/31/2003 2:15:23 PM PDT
by
BOBTHENAILER
(One by one, we're ridding the world of vermin. RATs are next!!)
To: BOBTHENAILER
Re;the road map
They didn't notice that the Bush Expressway went by way of
Afghanastan,Iraq, Iran, and Syria, with a lot of demolition
and paving work yet to do.
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posted on
05/31/2003 2:19:10 PM PDT
by
tet68
(Jeremiah 51:24 ..."..Before your eyes I will repay Babylon for all the wrong they have done in Zion")
To: tet68
They didn't notice that the Bush Expressway went by way of Afghanastan,Iraq, Iran, and Syria, with a lot of demolition and paving work yet to do.By the time they DO notice, the landscape over there will be quite different.
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posted on
05/31/2003 3:30:08 PM PDT
by
BOBTHENAILER
(One by one, we're ridding the world of vermin. RATs are next!!)
To: grania; MizSterious; Ernest_at_the_Beach; Grampa Dave; tet68; wolf24
Blair publicly made that assertion as he argued Saddam had to be tackled. But he was unrepentant on Sunday. "Those people who are sitting there saying 'Oh it is all going to be proved to be a great big fib got out by the security services, there will be no weapons of mass destruction', just wait and have a little patience," he said.
"I certainly do know some of the stuff that has already been accumulated...which is not yet public but what we are going to do is assemble that evidence and present it properly."
This is an exceprt from a Drudge article quoting Tony Blair. Proof positive that evidence will be forthcoming, much to the chagrin of the whining RATs and those who buy their lies.
Won't be long before the "I Told You So's" can commence. The RATs fall for it every time. Pinging Sen. KKK Byrd
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posted on
05/31/2003 7:53:26 PM PDT
by
BOBTHENAILER
(One by one, we're ridding the world of vermin. RATs are next!!)
To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
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posted on
05/31/2003 9:21:36 PM PDT
by
Destro
(Know your enemy! Help fight Islamic terrorisim by visiting www.johnathangaltfilms.com)
To: Destro
Thanks for the link. and of course neither the US nor Britain were involved in the Forgery as the article states!
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posted on
05/31/2003 9:42:43 PM PDT
by
Ernest_at_the_Beach
(Iran will feel the heat from our Iraq victory!)
To: Destro; grania; MizSterious; Grampa Dave; tet68; wolf24; BOBTHENAILER; Stuckathome; StringTheory
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posted on
05/31/2003 9:50:58 PM PDT
by
Ernest_at_the_Beach
(Iran will feel the heat from our Iraq victory!)
To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
I hope they don't plagiarize it like the last British report.
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posted on
05/31/2003 10:16:59 PM PDT
by
Destro
(Know your enemy! Help fight Islamic terrorisim by visiting www.johnathangaltfilms.com)
To: All
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posted on
05/31/2003 10:23:47 PM PDT
by
Ernest_at_the_Beach
(Iran will feel the heat from our Iraq victory!)
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