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Let graduates brought here as illegals attain permanent status
East Valley Arizona Tribune ^ | editorial

Posted on 05/29/2003 1:58:05 PM PDT by hsmomx3

That opportunity now lies before Congress in the form of legislation that would allow children of immigrant families to further their educations and careers after high school. It is important in the East Valley because each year, some very bright kids hit a brick wall at graduation, with enormous personal and social consequences. The young people in question were brought here by their parents. While the parents may have come or stayed illegally, the children had no say in the matter.

But the kids do receive one great benefit — a free public education through grade 12. The law requires public schools to accept all comers, no questions asked as to immigration status.

But once that diploma’s in hand, life gets hard for youngsters with no legal permission to be here. They can’t get a driver's license or a legitimate job, and they can’t attend one of Arizona’s three public universities without paying $13,000 a semester for international tuition. You could be a valedictorian and captain of the football team for all the law cares, but now you’ve hit a dead end.

The Student Adjustment Act, freshly introduced in Congress, would provide permanent residency status to students 21 and younger who have lived in the United States continuously for at least five years and are earning their high school diplomas. The students also must have no criminal record and be applying for college to be eligible.

Some object because this would be just another inducement for illegal immigration, but it’s doubtful the dirt-poor people who come here are thinking that far down the road. They’re here to do landscaping and lay bricks so they can eat for the next day or two; college for their kids is probably the farthest thing from their minds.

Keep in mind, too, that even if the law is not passed, these youngsters are not likely to return to their countries of origin; for many, this is the only home they’ve ever really known.

So we can either consign them to a lifetime of frustration, poverty and attendant social problems, or we can give them a chance to move ahead, earn a decent living and become productive members of the melting pot.

The choice seems like a no-brainer. Saying no would be a no-hearter.


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I found this at http://www.phxnews.com

This makes my blood boil!! Free education, my arse!!!!!

1 posted on 05/29/2003 1:58:05 PM PDT by hsmomx3
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To: madfly; Joe Hadenuf; Joe Whitey; Tancredo Fan; Marine Inspector
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2 posted on 05/29/2003 1:59:42 PM PDT by Sparta (Tagline removed by moderator)
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To: hsmomx3
LMAO! I would like the State Of California to give me a full refund for my education at CSU. Both undergraduate and graduate level. And yet illegals should get education for free. Or am I missing something here??
3 posted on 05/29/2003 2:00:39 PM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: hsmomx3
Bump.....
4 posted on 05/29/2003 2:00:59 PM PDT by Joe Hadenuf (Forget the tin foil, get out the sheet metal.)
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To: hsmomx3
The choice seems like a no-brainer. Saying no would be a no-hearter.

How idiotic. Getting Plyler vs. Doe overturned would be much better for America. I say round them out, pitch them back to wherever they're supposed to be, and let them fix whatever problems their criminal parents fled.

5 posted on 05/29/2003 2:11:22 PM PDT by Tancredo Fan
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To: hsmomx3
No one paid for my five kids' college educations but me. Who the hell do these people think they are?
6 posted on 05/29/2003 2:11:56 PM PDT by Mears (.)
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To: Tancredo Fan
Is Plyler vs. Doe the horrible decision that gives illegals the right to public education? If so it is one of the main problems and should be overturned. In fact I would say it is the biggest step we could take to stop illegal immigration.
7 posted on 05/29/2003 2:15:39 PM PDT by free me
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To: hsmomx3
Maybe we should just set bank robbers free and let them keep the money.
8 posted on 05/29/2003 2:18:18 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Drug prohibition laws help support terrorism.)
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To: hsmomx3
"But the kids do receive one great benefit — a free public education through grade 12. The law requires public schools to accept all comers, no questions asked as to immigration status."

Yeah they receive a benefit to them that is free. The rest of us have to pay for it. Just like these ingrates to take their free education (courtesy of American taxpayers)and then COMPLAIN because they cannot get more. Send their criminal parents and them back to where they came from!

9 posted on 05/29/2003 2:19:07 PM PDT by Chi-Town Lady
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To: hsmomx3
While the parents may have come or stayed illegally, the children had no say in the matter.

The children are also illegal aliens and should be deported along with their illegal alien parents ASAP.

10 posted on 05/29/2003 2:37:20 PM PDT by judgeandjury (The more numerous the laws, the more corrupt the state.)
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To: free me
Is Plyler vs. Doe the horrible decision that gives illegals the right to public education?

That's the one. When that loony left wing Judge Mariana Phaelzer, in cahoots with the anti-American Ford foundation-funded MALDEF, put the pox on California's voter-approved proposition 187 the next step would have been to send the prop. to the Supreme Court in an effort to overturn the wretched Plyler vs. Doe decision. It appeared likely that would happen, too.... that is until Gray Davis teamed up with the corrupt Mexican government and MALDEF and killed it. Now look at California. It's like a great big Tijuana, and is teetering on the brink of bankruptcy.

I found this summary of Plyler vs. Doe.

11 posted on 05/29/2003 2:44:01 PM PDT by Tancredo Fan
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To: hsmomx3
The average American has no idea how serious the situation is. I have a number of friends who do construction. They can't compete against the illegals. Each ethnic group has a specialty. For example, the Vietnamese do the hardwood floors. Illegals work off the books and don't pay taxes.
12 posted on 05/29/2003 2:47:02 PM PDT by ladyjane
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To: hsmomx3
Some object because this would be just another inducement for illegal immigration, but it’s doubtful the dirt-poor people who come here are thinking that far down the road.

Another misleading statement from the left. Word spreads very quickly among illegal aliens, both those already here and those thinking about coming here. Illegal aliens know about every free giveaway and every social program (paid for by us taxpayers) and every loophole in our laws. If pregnant illegal aliens are wise enough to slip over the border right before giving birth to their new U.S. citizen baby, then they're probably very aware of all of the other goodies that they can get from the United States.

13 posted on 05/29/2003 2:50:39 PM PDT by judgeandjury (The more numerous the laws, the more corrupt the state.)
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Makes ya wanna vomit. I thought these illegals come here to do the jobs Americans just won't do. In that case their children should do the same, head off to the lettuce fields and the meatpacking plants etc. and most definitely don't reward criminality with legalization. They are citizens of Mexico or whatever 3rd world hole they wandered in from. Never citizen of the United States.

Reward illegal aliens and you'll only get a lot more. Give a lot Mexicans/Central Americans etc. the incentive to come here illegally with their children.
14 posted on 05/29/2003 2:52:10 PM PDT by dennisw
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To: judgeandjury
Illegal aliens know about every free giveaway and every social program (paid for by us taxpayers) and every loophole in our laws.

They network and exchange scam info and tips like you wouldn't believe. Which gubber'mint welfare programs are easy to latch onto parasite like.

15 posted on 05/29/2003 2:54:49 PM PDT by dennisw
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To: hsmomx3
But once that diploma’s in hand, life gets hard for youngsters with no legal permission to be here. They can’t get a driver's license or a legitimate job, and they can’t attend one of Arizona’s three public universities without paying $13,000 a semester for international tuition. You could be a valedictorian and captain of the football team for all the law cares, but now you’ve hit a dead end.

Let them immigrate leaglly to the USA if they wish to be here. Otherwise get out of my country. These people are not American citizens, and they are not even legal residents. Get them out now.

16 posted on 05/29/2003 2:57:56 PM PDT by harpseal (Stay well - Stay safe - Stay armed - Yorktown)
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To: hsmomx3
You are another liberal socialist who for some reason can not get your brain around the term "illegal". Try to extrapolate: with no limit on the number of illegal aliens in this country, soon to be with matricula consular ID cards, guess who will be voting "democrat" each election in order to get more from the public trough???? HMMMMM????

Talk about a no-hearter? As long as the carrot is there to entice more illegals and smugglers, more human beings will die in overheated tractor trailer rigs. You want to reduce the possibility of that happening? Close the borders and control the inflow of central Americans and Arabs, e.g. Al-Qaeda. Sorry, hsmomx3, you are wrong on this one. BTW are you a high school educated mother of 3? Bet you want to pay more taxes too dont cha?
17 posted on 05/29/2003 3:00:40 PM PDT by wolfdaddie
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I DID NOT WRITE THIS!!! I posted it.

18 posted on 05/29/2003 3:14:48 PM PDT by hsmomx3 (Let's show Janet the door in 2006!!)
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Is there any legal or constitutional reason why illegal alien parents of citizens ("anchor babies") must be allowed to remain in this country?

I know, the odds of anyone having the intestinal fortitude to kick 'em out is pretty remote, but would there be any legal or constitutional problem with ruling that illegal alien parents of "anchor babies" are to be forbidden permanently from entering this country, under penalty of a ten-year prison term?

19 posted on 05/29/2003 3:23:47 PM PDT by supercat (TAG--you're it!)
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To: Sparta
HR 1684 IH

108th CONGRESS

1st Session

H. R. 1684

To amend the Illegal Immigration Reform and Immigrant Responsibility Act of 1996 to permit States to determine state residency for higher education purposes and to amend the Immigration and Nationality Act to cancel the removal and adjust the status of certain alien college-bound students who are long-term U.S. residents.

IN THE HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES

April 9, 2003

Mr. CANNON (for himself, Mr. BERMAN, Ms. ROYBAL-ALLARD, Mr. BONILLA, Mr. DREIER, Mr. GEORGE MILLER of California, Ms. ROS-LEHTINEN, Mr. HOYER, Mr. LINCOLN DIAZ-BALART of Florida, Mr. GUTIERREZ, Mr. MARIO DIAZ-BALART of Florida, Mr. WU, Mr. NUNES, Ms. JACKSON-LEE of Texas, Mrs. WILSON of New Mexico, Mr. RODRIGUEZ, Mr. WELLER, Mr. DOOLEY of California, Ms. HART, Mr. MENENDEZ, Mr. KING of New York, Mr. PASTOR, Mr. TIAHRT, Mr. MATHESON, Mr. SMITH of New Jersey, Mr. MCNULTY, Mr. RENZI, Ms. LINDA T. SANCHEZ of California, Mr. SHAYS, and Ms. SOLIS) introduced the following bill; which was referred to the Committee on the Judiciary, and in addition to the Committee on Education and the Workforce, for a period to be subsequently determined by the Speaker, in each case for consideration of such provisions as fall within the jurisdiction of the committee concerned


A BILL

To amend the Illegal Immigration Reform and Immigrant Responsibility Act of 1996 to permit States to determine state residency for higher education purposes and to amend the Immigration and Nationality Act to cancel the removal and adjust the status of certain alien college-bound students who are long-term U.S. residents.

SECTION 1. SHORT TITLE.

SEC. 2. RESTORATION OF STATE OPTION TO DETERMINE RESIDENCY FOR PURPOSES OF HIGHER EDUCATION BENEFITS.

SEC. 3. ADJUSTMENT OF STATUS OF CERTAIN LONG-TERM RESIDENT STUDENTS.

in extreme hardship to the alien, the alien's child, or (in the case of an alien who is a child) to the alien's parent.

END

What's going to happen, if this bill is passed, every parent that has a friend relative or acquaintance in the US, will send his or her kids here to go to school, become residents and then immigrate the parents.

This is a huge backdoor immigration program.

20 posted on 05/29/2003 3:48:09 PM PDT by Marine Inspector (DHS BCBP II)
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