Teachers earn more than editors & reporters

email ^ | Craig J. Cantoni

[hsmomx3]

The Summer 2003 edition of the education journal "Education Next" has statistics on teacher pay from the Bureau of Labor Statistics that match my own research. To quote: "Teachers earn more per hour than architects, civil engineers, mechanical engineers, statisticians, biological and life scientists, registered nurses, university-level foreign-language teachers, and editors and reporters." The statistics exclude benefits, which are far richer for teachers than for private-sector employees.

On a related note, the web site of a private citizen has great graphs and stats on government spending. One graph shows how education productivity has declined by 70 percent over the last 40 years, based on the ratio of SAT scores to inflation-adjusted per-pupil spending. The graph can be found at:

http://mwhodges.home.att.net/education.htm

Regards,

Craig J. Cantoni

Capstone Consulting Group

480-661-8175

Fax 480-661-8155

[Brave New World]

"Teachers earn more per hour than architects, civil engineers, mechanical engineers, statisticians, biological and life scientists, registered nurses, university-level foreign-language teachers, and editors and reporters."


Can you post these hourly rates or provide a link to them?
Thanks.

[lizma]

There was an article in the local paper a few years ago that investigated teacher’s pay.

According to the authors, if you take into account salary, benefits and hours worked (by union contract around here, they work about a 3 day work week), starting pay is the equivalent to $50/hr!!!

Tenured, close to retirement is $100/hr!!!

I was a physician before I left the work force to raise my kids. With half the hours, a quarter of the stress, I'm definitely consider teaching when I re-enter the work force.

[supercat]

What's worse in my state is you can't fire bad teachers, or teachers who have a agenda apart from their job description.

I thought the NEA required teachers to have a certain agenda apart from their official job description...

[ECM]

You are aware that the average teacher works less than 200 days a year, right?

[netmilsmom]

I was an office manager for two psychiatrist and their therapists before I was married. My favorite boss left his practice for a government job because he was going broke.

The good thing about teaching is that when your kids are home from school so are you.

[Tribune7]

I thought the NEA required teachers to have a certain agenda apart from their official job description...

You joke, but . . . .

[HIDEK6]

not counting putting up with your snot nosed kid who wont ever bring in his home work.

Babysitting your snot-nosed kid is

1) Done during the time you're paid for;

2) What you've been trained to do.

3) So what's the beef?

[ladylib]

They make up to $90,000 a year in my town, and in towns that pay less, the test scores are better.

[HIDEK6]

Funny how the US economy has grown and become so powerful in the face of all that poor education.

Speaking from personal experience, I have paid to educate all of my employees. However, I have no concern at all for their self esteem, I only care if they are conversant with certain arithmetical formulas, can understand a spec, and can write a coherent memo.

[Diva Betsy Ross]

Most teachers are nothing more than glorified civil servants. They get four months vacation, get home everyday by 3:30 , have weekends free and have federal holidays off. They are protected from having to ever produce anything of value, and they have unlimited job security.

What a bunch of bull. Teachers these days are the least educated, creative people on earth. They have the cushiest jobs, and they under preform even most of their own students. They get tax rebates for being a teacher, and I have yet to meet one of them who actually raises their own children. I am sick of the grading papers baloney. Most teachers deserve the scorn they get for their entitlement attitude.

[Old Professer]

It's not the teacher's fault the scores are low, silk purses are overrated, anyway.

[Renegade]

It seems to me that teachers TAUGHT them all they know !!!What's the problem ?

[El Gato]

If teaching is so lucrative, for so little work, why do so many young teachers leave the profession after just a few years? The turnover rate, in terms of leaving the profession, rather than just moving within it, is nearly astronomical compared to just about anything except the miliary. The difference being that many people enter the military never intending to make it a career. Few enter teaching with the intention of only doing it for few years.

[Renegade]

Show me your statistics to prove the accusation that MOST teachers are glorified public servents or is that statement a value judgement of your own ?

[Renegade]

WHAT test scores are you refering too? Please specify!

[HIDEK6]

With half the hours, a quarter of the stress, I'm definitely consider teaching when I re-enter the work force.

I certaintly hope, then, that my suggestion is adopted.

1) Put the education department under the department of defense.

2) Encourage retired people to volunteer their services to teach, thus costing us taxpayers nothing.

This teacher gravy train must be de-railed.

[Renegade]

That's because the school is open only 200 days a year . Not the teacher's fault.

[HIDEK6]

If teaching is so lucrative, for so little work, why do so many young teachers leave the profession after just a few years?

Conscience?

[Renegade]

I think your husband should have figured out he should go into teaching ,instead of hearing you whine about the differences in pay .

[Renegade]

Probably a teacher with 30 years experience makes more than the professions stated at entry level. However, a 30 year carreer in the mentioned professions will far outpay the teacher who spent the same amount of time at the job.